• stinerman [Ohio]@midwest.social
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    I’m O- so I give two units of red cells and get saline and the plasma/antibodies back. The guy at the donation site says “make sure you don’t drink any alcoholic beverages for 24 hours…but you can have one if you want.” He looks back to see if his manager is around and then whispers “you can have two but don’t leave the house.”

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      At least last time I donated blood in my country (Canada), you could discretely indicate “do not use” by applying a different sticker to the bag. This was done in case someone got peer pressured into donating but didn’t want to reveal something private that would have disqualified them otherwise.

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        We (India) don’t have that, mainly because blood bags don’t grow on trees, but there’s a question about sleeping eight hours the previous night that always seemed irrelevant. Now that I think about it, it might have been added for this purpose.

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        Yes but they also test the blood and will call you if they have reason to believe you are positive.

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            Sort of. Still can’t donate if you’re taking prep (hiv preventative) or if you’ve had sex with multiple people.

            Need to be off prep for 3 months and not have sex with new or multiple partners.

            The no prep part is a tough ask. Especially with how healthcare is

            Much better than it was but it still excludes a huge portion of the community

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              In my country, men are asked the same questions and no one is allowed to give blood if they changed partners in the last 3 months. I imagine it is the same for women.

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                Unfortunately it applies to gay men only. Our straight counterparts can switch up partners as much as they want.

                Well, it’d apply to bisexual men who’ve had male partners as well.

                I should also point out it doesn’t have to be new partners. Just if you’ve had more than one partner you can’t donate even if it’s an exclusive polygamous relationship.

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                  In the US, it is an Individual Donor Assessment and applies to everyone. Everyone gets the same question tree, regardless of sexual orientation. If you have had a new partner in the last 3 months or have multiple partners that doesn’t defer you, it sends you to the next tier of question: have you engaged in anal sex. Yes to anal with a new partner or multiple partners is the deferral. If you haven’t had a new partner or multiple partners in the last 3 months, you will not be asked about anal sex. Canada went live with their individual donor assessment a year before the US and has noted a slight drop in donations in straight donors because they are now being deferred for high risk activity when they were previously missed.

                  Prep is listed under a medication deferral. First responders that take prep for protection from workplace exposure are deferred as well.

                  (I’m a blood banker)

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          No idea, but they’re certainly more likely to take advantage of someone who’s blackout drunk

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        … Where do you live that rape DNA has been sequenced any time in the most recent 10 years or so? That’s so much raping that could be hand before you get from donating blood.

        Don’t be a fuckface just because you rape. Try to cancel it out by donating blood, we use rapist blood just as well as we use a frat bros.

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      Not really how this works. Tests take time and they don’t test immediately, also they do pool tests, so multiple samples are mixed and tested. So even if they’d find something they couldn’t tell you right there, and then again even if they could they would tell you it would be handled so that nobody else could notice.

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    People are so weird in their obsession with alcohol and getting drunk…

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      I felt this way at one time when I was younger. Now I don’t give a shit what people want to do with their own bodies.

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      It’s fun if you don’t overdo it, as long as it’s not an obsession and as long as it doesn’t interfere with your life. Like all things, moderation is key.

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        I mean I get the structure of the joke, but in this case it’s just kind of sad. I think it’s because it is not SO exaggerated of a thing to do that I could actually envision some people doing this straight up…

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          Tbf, could be kinda fun if you don’t drink too much and get drunk drunk… So, not exactly what the post is saying but still

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          I doubt most people who would do this are doing it to be cool. Your comments show a serious lack of understanding when it comes to addiction.

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            You’re totally right. I guess I was thinking of it from the angle of people who do things like this on purpose (but in control), not people who have lost control due to addiction or otherwise. Probably because of the “jokey” tone of the post.

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      some people prefer therapy,

      The rest of us just drink until we can’t remember why we’re stressed.

      Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it.

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      I mean… dunno about you, but I look my best with that sweet patina of sweat glistening on my forehead, a drop of drool meandering towards my chin, and a hot load in my drawers.

      I may not remember some nights, but I rest easy knowing that I’m a damn fine lookin drunk. Too much booze also makes me smell amazing.

      Oh, and I’m a great drunk cook too. You can absolutely trust me with that knife.

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        Is that how you got the nickname Half-Pinky-Shit-Pants-Low-Blood-Drunk-Ass-Sally? I always wondered what the subtle inside joke was

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        Some of my fondest memories and best bonding experiences are from getting horrendously drunk with somebody. I’m not sure if it’s safe for dating because you need to trust the other person to be a decent human being while drunk, but most people are.

        If it’s just the two of you, or you and strangers you’ll never meet again, you’ll end up with a better bond from this shared experience, because neither person comes off worse than the other if you’re both black out.

        Also of course it’s not a cute idea? The post is clearly humourous.

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      Similar experience. I doubled down by playing volleyball afterwards. The bruise was practically from wrist to shoulder.

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    I actually did this in my early 20s. Girlfriend at the time got super drunk super fast so I had to stay sober to drive us home.

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    Me suspecting my date is actually an Aedes spp. mosquito:

    “heeeey so how about after this drink we hit the blood bank? You know, just the two of us and a lot, and I do mean a lot, of blood bags? How about that huh?”

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    Staring in the face of late-stage capitalism, the human race tries to find a glimmer of optimism. Can’t afford a real date, find it too hard to connect while sober.

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    Saving lives is pretty hot, but its a shame they don’t let you do this if you’re gay or use cannabis.

    Edit: this is getting out of hand, I do not live in the US. Happy for y’all that do! Although, overall I’m pretty glad not to be living there.

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      If you’re talking about the American Red Cross, they have removed most of the explicitly queerphobic rules. They still ask about high risk activities, but in a non gendered way.

      It was kind of insane, though, that 20 years ago I was banned for life for having sucked cock. Turns out I was just boymoding, and as soon as I transitioned cocksucking became just fine for blood donation.

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        Just discovered these rule changes based on your comment. Unfortunately my partner and I still can’t donate blood (they’re on PREP, and I was in a vaccine trial that disqualifies me), but it’s cool that they’ve finally eliminated the worst of the queerphobia in the US.

        I experienced the reverse of you - as soon as I transitioned I was disqualified as a trans man who has sex with men, even if the sex was identical pre- and post-transition. These were the previous “updated” rules that were supposed to be less queerphobic, but obviously weren’t hitting the mark.

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            Quoting from the red cross FAQ:

            The waiting period is required due to these drugs interfering with viral replication and thus possibly altering the detectability of diagnostic and screening tests for HIV, including extending the window period prior to detectable infection or a delay in producing antibodies.

            The Red Cross and the FDA support individuals making responsible choices for their health and the broader health of our communities. The Red Cross and FDA are involved in ongoing research, data collection and assessment related to transfusion safety, including the use of HIV preventative medications, and will continue to seek opportunities that could potentially help lead to additional changes. The Red Cross does not encourage individuals to stop taking these medications in order to donate blood.

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        Same. Hit the vape right before going in. Whoever gets that blood is probably going to fail a drug test.

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          The American Red Cross has this on their website:

          Q: I’m a heavy cannabis user. Can a transfusion recipient fail a drug test if they receive my blood?

          A: No.

          They don’t care if you’re high as a kite as long as it doesn’t impair your memory or comprehension (probably for legal reasons).

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      Who’s barring cannabis users? Red Cross at least only has a problem if your decision-making appears impaired. They don’t even ask you to wait between smoking and donating as long as you’re thinking clearly enough.

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    Yeah but that would enable the prolonging of people’s lives. Given how shit life and the world are, I can’t engage or support that; it’d unethical for me force people to stay alive. Y’all do what you think is right, but I see it as needless cruelty.

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      Er. You think everyone’s forced to accept donated blood (I’ll agree there’s probably some that would have preferred not, but everyone?)? Or is this a whoooooosh moment