Do you people just hate anyone who receives money?
Crabs in a barrel
*bucket
snatches at one of your aft claws get back down here you hothead!
Yes.
People in general are very interested in the politics of who deserves recognition (in whatever form) over others. Fundamentally it’s about an instinct towards “fairness.”
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You just gave away you have no idea what communism is.
nOt TrUe CoMmUnIsM
You would need an example to talk about that.
You smooth brains really stretch far for a meme eh?
Dam, I feel bad for people like you.
It’s what mainlaind Taiwan started with.
I’m gonna need some real sources for this… And maybe even a definition.
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“Communism is when the government does stuff.” -The wandering spirit of the head of a very real University
My initial impression of this instance is that Lemmy.ml is a short step away from Lemmygrad.
🤡
No. But focusing on supporting one single app instead of the platform is not sustainable for the platform. This meme is just a reminder to support the platform as well.
I haven’t seen a single call to action to donate to Lemmy other than the static sidebar on desktop. Something like that would be far more helpful than complaining about previous Sync users continuing to donate to Sync. Nothing is being taken from Lemmy, Sync already had a big user base and is bringing many of them over here thanks to the app. Let’s call to action to them to donate to instances instead of complaining.
Accurate. I used Sync for Reddit until they were forced out. I then switched to Sync for Lemmy for the familiar interface, the ease of setup, etc. Sync literally brought me to Lemmy.
Since then I looked around and still prefer this app. On a side note: why does the UI for Voyager on Android look like some old version of iOS?
Hate all you want but Sync being popular is a good thing for Lemmy adoption.
But you are the one focusing on supporting one single app?
Who are you speaking of? How many users are on sync versus all the others?
My opinion is that what matters is how much money each part of the network receives.
For example, instances tend to be transparent about their funding. And we can see that some of them are just months away of being out of cash. Meanwhile, we see people subscribing(!) to a very expensive app that charges $20 to remove ads (and tracking and data collecting) otherwise.
I think is okay to keep people aware of these things. Getting defensive about it is just a waste of energy. For both sides.
Would you have ever posted something like this is sync didn’t come out? Why didn’t you post something like this before sync came out?
I’m assuming that it’s because Sync is the first monitized app
I agree with you. It’s not to attack sync users, it’s just to remind them that there’s an entire ecosystem dependent on donations
Oh no my $20 for a lifetime purchase of removing ads from an app I’ve enjoyed using for like a decade. 🥱
I think the point of the post is ain’t nobody donating $20 to the Lemmy platform or host or other apps
This meme implies that Sync is taking all the donations though. The people donating to Sync didn’t stop donating to Lemmy to do so
Yea this is the thing I keep saying. Who cares about if you’re paying $20 for an app if that’s what you want to do. Just remember to help out the instances who are running things to make that app work. I think a lot of people realize this and that’s great, but I’m sure some people also don’t. So, instead of circlejerking about Sync being $20, it would have been better for make one or two posts days ago with that reminder and leave it be. Instead, we see the circlejerk continuing days later.
I agree. Although I was surprised that my insurance rejected all forms of donation. It’s pretty small, though.
My instance shut down donos because they were bringing in way more than they needed and are sitting on years of server costs at current usage. I was donating when they were open, though.
You’re awesome
A new platform like Lemmy needs to establish trust and reliability for a certain time period before it can expect people to give back something. Something that the Sync developer has established already for a decade now.
Assuming that Lemmy continues to flourish well, I will be perfectly happy to donate to Lemmy, in fact I’m quite sure that in the long run I’ll donate a lot more to Lemmy than the one time purchase cost of Sync.
I agree. As an immigrant from reddit, I have noticed a lot of server instability. It doesn’t give me a warm fuzzy feeling about the future of Lemmy.
I’m signed up the patreon for mine, they’re gonna get more than $20 over time
My instance doesn’t take donations at the moment. I’ll definitely contribute once there’s something.
same as well.
Sir that’s not your $20, that’s ops money to decide what you do with it
Here take the last of my reddit gold 🪙
Just like the lifetime purchase I made for Sync for Reddit, right?
I mean, take that up with Reddit. Hopefully, lemmy doesn’t somehow stop people from using apps.
Besides I’m happy to pay for the development costs of him porting the entire thing to use lemmy instead super fast, whilst being really responsive to any issues and questions. Of the 5 apps on my phone, sync feels the best to me so I’m cool supporting it.
I saw an earlier post that showed Lemmy’s recent rapid growth followed by a plateau and then slight decline. My feeling is that there is a very LOUD minority of Lemmy users that are trying to act as self-anointed gatekeepers and they’re bringing the platform down as a direct consequence. It makes the platform look petty and small to new and existing users alike. If the top posts are continually about shaming other users then this platform isn’t going to last. Let’s focus on building communities and having interesting conversations rather than one upping each other.
When Sync lauched it was all anyone was talking about. I don’t see the memes for and against Sync as people actually upset I just think it is the meta topic of the week. Like when beans were a meme following the “how can I not poop for three days?”
that may or may not be the case, but the reality of the situation is that it makes the whole foss community look a whole lot more off putting
The Poop Warrior shall live on in our memories.
Imo when it comes to topics like that, people tend to be able to just brush it off as a silly internet thing.
A silly internet thing is not necessarily equivalent a toxic community. I’m good with annoying posts, but a lot of people are taking other people’s personal decisions a little too personally. I find that behaviour more annoying than I ever found the bean posts, tbh.
Why would someone spend their free time somewhere that they feel brings bad aspects to their life? Why would someone want to deal with a lot of negativity over (let’s be honest) pretty minor things? Of course some users will get put off by that. It’s why some people left Reddit years ago.
I just wanted to tell you how happy I was to see the Netscape logo as your icon. Brought me back to the old days of the internet.
Thanks, I’m glad it made you happy. I love how it manages to get so much detail despite being so low resolution.
They spent a month shitting on reddit now there’s something new to shit on
🥰
agreed and it’s slowly pushing me away from using lemmy
Nailed it. Some users are intent on making this reddit 2.0 with all the baggage. Ive seen entire subs be spam downvoted because some user had the time and hate.
It’s me. I’m the loud minority. Redditors go home!
very LOUD minority
self-anointed gatekeepers
top posts are continually about shaming other users
Crabs in a bucket. No one’s allowed to succeed, unless everyone™ does.
Lol yeah right
It’s more like one dev made the best user experience on lemmy, so people give him money. At least that’s the case for me.
Same. Dedicated sync for reddit user, now that sync for reddit is dead, I’ll follow the sync dev and support him with my Dollars
This is the way. Sync for life, also Dev said he’s thinking about a 1 time payment option.
It’s already done, there’s an ad free and a ultra lifetime option
We asked him to make sync for lemmy over in r/syncforreddit.
This. I tried lemmy. Didn’t use it until sync came out. Now that lemmy is looking for engineers I’ll donate some money.
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this is dumb, sync is free
It’s literally not Free.
Then how am I using it for free right now ?
you have ads on your lemmy bud, nobody else does
Right, so it’s free. With ads. Ads that currently dont work, and even if they did, i still haven’t paid for sync, so its free for me.
Also, why do you care if people are using sync or paying for it. How does that affect you personally?
Right, so it’s free. With ads.
yeah its not free XD you have to look at ads which you DONT have to do with regular lemmy.
Also, why do you care if people are using sync or paying for it. How does that affect you personally?
it doesnt, why do you ask? i was just correcting the user saying its “free” which is not under any pov. not in price because of ads, not in freedom because it sucks.
TIL that looking at ads, even without money leaving my bank account, isn’t free. These marketing people are wizards /s
I think it’s very valid to say a service isn’t free if it makes you the product by forcibly showing you ads. This is especially true when your data is being collected and shared with advertisers.
Time is more valuable than money, and I don’t like spending time on ads. That’s just my two cents, though.
yep they even convince people to defend them and their interests for free!
> you have to look at ads
Your mind is gonna be blown when you learn that you can block ads system-wide on android…
Doesn’t change jack shit
I have an adblocker so no, I don’t.
It literally is. All premium options are a choice.
Ad removal lifetime is $20, Ultra (which brings extra features) is subscription based and a little more expensive.
free is considered to mean libre not gratis here
sync is proprietary
wasnt talking about price but considering there are ADS in it that are not normally on lemmy even the price doesnt hold up
you have ads on lemmy bud, nobody else does
Ad-supported software is not free.
“Freemium”
Use Lemmy, y’all!
Nooo not like that!
I think the issue is sync users cost instances money but does not pay those instances.
I mean isn’t that true for literally every user that doesn’t pay? I’m not sure why we are mad at Sync users when we don’t even have a strong call to action to donate to instances.
“use my instance please”
“No not like that!”
Holy fuck this is what we left Reddit to avoid…
Lemmy had a garbage web UI. And the other apps I have used are not nearly as smooth as sync.
You think Sync users don’t also donate? I paid for sync and donated to Lemmy’s development. Considering donating to my 2 main instances as well.
I didnt write the comic
That’s literally Reddit’s argument against third party apps, the reason a good chunk of Lemmy users left reddit is they disagree with that approach…
Reddit wasn’t wrong about that fact. One of their biggest problems was the official app had not been able to do most of the things the third party apps could do.
Well the Lemmy web UI is not able to do most of the things third party apps could do.
Maybe Lemmy instances should bill third party apps for API calls, hmmm?
But it’s fine if I cost an app dev their time and instances money and give nothing to no one? Genuine question because I don’t understand all the sync hate.
My lemmy server is selfhosted (pawb.social), and the running costs are pretty negligible after initial costs.
We get plenty of donations honestly, but that is obviously not universal.
Even a group of saints will find someone in their midst deserving of rebuke.
I didnt write the cartoon im just explaining what is going on in the image.
How much has liftoff, jeroba, connect, etc paid?
Jeroba is the official app…
Do they have a paid feature?
Ok so they’ve paid just as much is what you’re saying
We pay.
You assume.
It’s junior level reasoning.
Im explaining what the comic is saying. You assume and without any evidence. That’s a bad look
I just said we pay. You seem to think I’m talking about Sync.
I’m not. Technically, I guess I could be talking about both server and sync.
What I’ve seen on Lemmy is I can say I paid for Sync and donate to the server and someone will need to come along to tell me all of that money should go to Lemmy.
That’s too either/or. And it’s making Lemmy look… incapable of nuanced thought. Or entitled.
It’s not everyone, but it’s common enough it looks really odd.
Oh fuck off.
Hey are you db2 from reddit who used to be into vapes?
Yeah among other things
Oh wow good to see you here! I remember you from the early days when we had less than 6k subs there!
It used to be such a fun, vibrant and exciting hobby and community. It so sad to see how regulations basically strangled the life out of it. It’s very nice to see familiar usernames pop up here and there!
It feels like early reddit without the fuckery doesn’t it? 😆
Totally! Not just that, the user base also feels different, sorta how reddit was before it became mainstream
Be kind
Yeah, I’m not going to “be kind” to divisive bullshit, I’m going to call it out. Every time. Someone’s pissing on your shoes and you’re telling the person telling them not to to “be kind”. 🤡
Bro over here malding over a meme
The meme is indirectly insulting anyone using sync. It’s not being kind. Why be kind back?
It’s a meme,it’s not insulting anybody…
Memes are often used to poke fun at people and topics and this one is overused.
Honestly, I feel like it’s mostly targeted at LJDawson, not the users.
It’s even more shitty to target him, imo.
Gay
But im using sync for free.
Why are people so angry about this?
Well you see, it’s important to aggressively gatekeep anything that people start to use and enjoy.
The people who are actually angry tend to be FOSS advocates. I think they were assuming Sync would have a FOSS type option for users, and were surprised that wasn’t the case.
The rest of us just think it’s funny.
I’m a sync user, btw
I’m a FOSS advocate, and I have the $20 Sync ad free.
Same. I write FOSS software in my free time and also paid.
That’s awesome. :)
It’s just a meme because when Sync launched it was all over everyone’s feeds. I don’t think as many folks are as angry about it as it seems but it’s definitely a good topic for meta memes.
Im just happy for the influx of posts commenta and votes since sync launched.
Before it was a good day if a post got 50 upvotes Now its common to see 200+ and theres a ton more comments.
Its improved the experience in my opinion.
If you are not paying for Sync you are getting ads. So you are still paying (attention, data, you are the product).
Additionally proprietary software has some long term disadvantages that are not visible at first. This is why one needs to always inform people about it as they do not understand these disadvantages.
The biggest issue is that the owners of the proprietary code can change its course whenever they like it. See for example the Reddit Apollo Dev who would have sold out the community for 10 million dollars:
See his own published audio and the discussion on HN:
https://christianselig.com/apollo-end/reddit-third-call-may-31-end.m4a
This whining is so pathetic.
Christ, let me use my favorite app in peace instead of going “tsk tsk” and whinging about it when no one’s stopping you from using other apps.
Like this is somehow the fault of sync’s dev. Go ahead folks, the donate to lemmy button is at the top of the page, go ahead and click on it if your morals are so true.
Honestly. This isn’t some centralized platform. Donating at least some of the profits to the people making the app possible seems fitting. While I don’t agree with the API pricing of Reddit, I think it’s fitting that it should cost something at least, if not only to cover wage for the people working on the API
Go ahead
Lead the way please
I have no idea what botton he is speaking off 🤷
Hey OP why don’t you start by sharing your donation receipts to Lemmy?
Leave reddit cause you can’t use your preferred app anymore. Come to Lemmy, and get beat over the head for your choice of preferred app.
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plus it is a subscription model.
There is a non-subscription model that also disables the admob tracking.
I am pro-facts
But not nuances, it feels.
That’s not just a feeling. They professionally cherry picked facts to try to generate outrage. And threw any context out the window along the way.
I have never seen a website so consistently entitled. It changes my sympathetic view of the left into a need to self reflect and maybe ensure those sympathies get solid, unwavering boundaries.
No one is entitled to other people’s stuff. We can credibly argue whether value is flowing to the right places, but that’s not what I’m seeing on lemmy in sync-bash posts.
Who let spez make a Lemmy account?
Willing to bet the lemmy platform is more likely to get support from the type of person that would also pay for an app like sync than it is to get money from people that like to grandstand like OP.
I’ve donated to Lemmy, Beehaw, and Mastodon and came here because Reddit killed Sync. Lemmy is full of gatekeepers and it’s bringing the platform down. Half the posts are whining about reddit and the other half are whining because someone doesn’t adhere to the perfect open source ethos and shun anything not completely free. It’s getting tiring. No wonder Lemmy’s active user count is decreasing.
I’m thinking the sync app will entice enough people with… differing views that the in-place gatekeeping will lose its bite.
I appreciate the FOSS ecosystem, but the people around here seem to think that you should never be able to sustain a living from writing software. Like I should just go back to construction and only write code on the side.
That attitude can kiss my ass.
Don’t forget all the frothing at the mouth to talk up how wonderful communism is.
Haha yeah you’re a real activist for making a purchase
Haven’t paid for any clients yet.
I’m a developer and it hits close to home when people try to tell you that your skills should never sustain your family.
Funny how those same people still expect others to put in the time and effort for that work, eh?
With how many comments I’ve seen saying that it doesn’t take a lot to make an app, I’m shocked that there aren’t more lemmy apps. Shocked I tell ya.
Could not agree more
Why would people do this? We want the hughest amount of users we can, and for most people to believe in FOSS or even copyleft philosophy, but this just pushes people away. Just use whatever app you like best and maybe donate to incentivize the app you believe in. But to just relenlessly mock non-FOSS apps only hurts the community and doesn’t foster growth.
You could say it doesn’t fosster growth
