I would like to know what your routine is in general, but I’m also specifically curious about what products you use, if you use them, and what the rationale is behind each product.

My routine:

Morning

  1. Rinse face with warm water.
  2. Scrub face and neck with warm, wet washcloth.
  3. Apply facial moisturizer with SPF (I use CeraVe AM Facial Moisturizing Lotion SPF 30) to face, neck, and hands.

Evening

  1. Shower.
    • While in shower, scrub entire body with an exfoliating mitt (ie this one).
  2. Apply a retinol (I use Retin-A (tretinoin 0.05%)) to face, neck, and hands.
  3. Apply facial moisturizer (I use CeraVe PM Facial Moisturizing Lotion) to face, neck, and hands
  4. Apply body lotion (I use CeraVe Moisturizing Cream) to whole body, excluding hands and face.

I have used, and considered continuing using a BHA (also AHA?) liquid exfoliant (I have read that it shouldn’t be used at the same time as retinol due to PH requirements, ie use it in the morning and retinol in the evening) (I previously used Paula’s Choice 2% BHA Liquid Exfoliant, but I no longer because I have lost trust in Paula’s Choice overall due to their borderline false advertising regarding their retinol product [1]), but I am unsure of what a good product would be, and the rationale behind it. I have also heard about Vitamin E, though I’ve never used it.

References
  1. “[Research] Study: The Ordinary and Paula’s Choice retinols are unstable”. toa20. r/SkincareAddiction. Reddit. Published: 2023-01-26T17:49:01.223Z. Accessed: 2024-10-29T05:16Z. https://www.reddit.com/r/SkincareAddiction/comments/10lxshy/research_study_the_ordinary_and_paulas_choice/.
  • Kalcifer@sh.itjust.worksOP
    43·
    2 months ago

    You use too many products, no way that can be good for your skin. Even showering every day is imo unnecessary, once every other day or once a week is good enough if the only thing you did was sitting in an office all day. And if you do shower that often, most of the time you should only use water, not any other products.

    Are you only here to spread negativity, or do you have any proof behind your claims? I’m not interested in opinions.

    • PureTryOut@lemmy.kde.social
      54·
      2 months ago

      I think this is one of those cases where the burden of proof is on the person using the products, not on the one not using them. Your post is basically an advertising campaign for several of these products.

      You do realize your body is supposed to maintain itself right? Of course some people will actually need some stuff because their body doesn’t do it well enough, but if your body doesn’t have actual problems there is no need to use any of these products.

      • Kalcifer@sh.itjust.worksOP
        1·
        2 months ago

        I think this is one of those cases where the burden of proof is on the person using the products, not on the one not using them.

        It would be, were I advocating for the products, which I am not. Perhaps you misread @PureTryOut@lemmy.kde.social’s comment: They were making conjectured claims, which I called out.

      • Kalcifer@sh.itjust.worksOP
        1·
        2 months ago

        You do realize your body is supposed to maintain itself right?

        Of course some people will actually need some stuff because their body doesn’t do it well enough

        You have answered your own epiplexis.

        • PureTryOut@lemmy.kde.social
          11·
          2 months ago

          You missed the word “some”. The human body had millions of years to evolve to a point where companies seem to think they can replace essential functions of it? Where is the logic in that? Some people (I’ll make sure to emphasize it) have skin issues yes, because nature isn’t perfect. They might need some product to help out. But by far the majority will be just fine without them.

          • RBWells@lemmy.world
            1·
            2 months ago

            Nah, we didn’t evolve to live to 90, and people are maintaining so much better now. I think some intervention is appropriate. Everyone agrees you should brush your teeth, right? Not just rinse your mouth with water. The body is self maintaining only to a certain point and I can tell (from the way my mom and her mom, and my dad’s parents and brothers) that the stuff I am doing is helping.

            I do agree it’s not ideal to exfoliate mechanically every day though, or to put cleanser all over you every day.

          • Kalcifer@sh.itjust.worksOP
            1·
            2 months ago

            The human body had millions of years to evolve to a point where companies seem to think they can replace essential functions of it?

            That’s partially the purpose of modern medicine [1].

            References
            1. “Medicine”. Wikipedia. Published: 2024-10-25T17:12Z. Accessed: 2024-10-28T06:44Z. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Medicine&action=history.

              Medicine is the science and practice of caring for patients, managing the diagnosis, prognosis, prevention, treatment, palliation of their injury or disease, and promoting their health. Medicine encompasses a variety of health care practices evolved to maintain and restore health by the prevention and treatment of illness.

      • Kalcifer@sh.itjust.worksOP
        1·
        2 months ago

        Your post is basically an advertising campaign for several of these products.

        Is it? I only stated the products that I use for the purpose of clarity, example, and critique.

    • 1984@lemmy.today
      22·
      2 months ago

      Why don’t you go and read scientific papers if you are not interested in opinions and claims?

      Humans beings like to exchange ideas and experiences with eachother without being forced to show scientific evidence. Maybe you don’t, which is fine, but maybe not tell others what to discuss then?

      This is not a scientific journal, if you haven’t noticed and picked the wrong url…

      • Kalcifer@sh.itjust.worksOP
        1·
        2 months ago

        Humans beings like to exchange ideas and experiences with eachother without being forced to show scientific evidence. Maybe you don’t, which is fine, but maybe not tell others what to discuss then?

        I’m not forcing anybody to do anything. If one chooses to engage in conjecture, then that is their own prerogative, though, of course, I will dismiss it as such. There is also the ethical dilemma of choosing to not be a servant of Truth.

      • Kalcifer@sh.itjust.worksOP
        1·
        2 months ago

        Why don’t you go and read scientific papers if you are not interested in opinions and claims?

        The burden of proof lies with the claimant.