Prompted by another thread about conscription in Ukraine.

  • treefrog@lemm.ee
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    4 months ago

    When everyone is being drafted. Including the children of the oligarchs and political class.

    Otherwise it’s never right. It’s just feeding the poor to the war machine.

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      4 months ago

      So if for example every person’s name goes in the hat, and then conscripts are drawn at random? I only clarify because in a situation where every able body is fighting you’ve already lost, there needs to be logistics, maintaining utilities, growing food, etc

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        4 months ago

        Drafts usually are of young men for the logistic reasons you mentioned.

        So, if all men ages 18-24 are being drafted, the President’s kids should be first on the list.

        In other words, if you’re going to send my son to war and you are president you need to send your’s first. Otherwise I’m telling my kid to dodge because his life isn’t worth less than some rich assholes.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.world
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        4 months ago

        I only clarify because in a situation where every able body is fighting you’ve already lost, there needs to be logistics, maintaining utilities, growing food, etc

        Conscription is actually a way to ensure that. In the Ukrainian War, as well as at least the US during WW2 (I’m less familiar with other countries’ conscription systems during WW2), conscription is used to prioritize those with skills which are not economically vital during wartime - during WW2, even, some skilled workers weren’t even allowed to volunteer, much less be conscripted, for military service.

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      4 months ago

      Rich people are humans too and also have rights.

      Subjecting rich people to the same violations of their rights doesn’t make the thing okay.

      • treefrog@lemm.ee
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        4 months ago

        So, you’re saying conscription is always wrong? I’m certainly more okay with that then the idea that the poors should die to protect countries.