-Sets up problematic hypothetical that people are not in fact advocating for

-Destroy strawman

Wow, you’re so good at arguing and abstraction!

Sarcasm aside, you’re wrong about everything, from your weird council thing to the idea that demand can’t be predicted before price markers. Central Planning is not at all like what you’ve painted it as. The USSR managed constant growth even with planning by hand, in the age of computers where Amazon and Walmart predict demand before it appears this isn’t an issue.

You have a lot of history to dig through, as well as logistics, before you make such a terribly ignorant statement like that.

Yea, that’s not at all what has happened historically. Democratic, Capitalist countries have killed millions of civilians with the audacity to challenge their extremist views too, does that mean they are as bad as fascism? Fuck no. Equating Communism to fascism is fascist apologia, because historically Communists have not been nearly as bad as fascists.

It doesn’t matter where I live, Communism is the standard for the left in a global scale. Marxism is the foundation of the left, and Communism is the ideology of Marxists. Unless you’re horribly confused and mean to refer to the Overton Window, left and right don’t change based on location.

All in all I think you’re confusing left and right with the Overton Window.

Most people on the left are Communists. You using Communist as an analog with Fascism is blatant proof that you have in fact not touched grass nor actually engaged with leftists. Most people on the right are liberals.

I absolutely can, that’s a horribly bad-faith interpretation of my point. Personalities among Communists and fascists are completely different, and if you have touched grass you would know that. Unless you’re so privileged you’ve never had to care, of course.

What policies?

Do you have any actual points or do you just mald online without adding any substance?

Socialism isn’t welfare.

Hundreds of Millions have died under tyrannical Capitalism built on the sentiment you’re expressing here. No Communist wants to hold people down, they want to build people up. It’s Capitalists that want to hold people down, as without doing so the bourgeoisie would not exist.

By that definition, there aren’t many Tankies on this platform at all. I haven’t seen a single person uncritically glorifying any of those states.

It’s pretty simple. Most MLs critically support ML states. Almost all of them, for example, hate that Stalin banned homosexuality. At the same time, they can also appreciate how both Mao and the USSR doubled life expectancy and ended famine. By metrics, both states improved rapidly.

As an Anarchist, you can learn a lot from MLs on how to actually get stuff done. Anarchism is a beautiful dream currently, outside of fringe cases like Revolutionary Catalonia it hasn’t actually existed to a meaningful extent. I’m not saying you should become an ML, but MLs typically take their routes because it gets results, even if the Means aren’t pretty at all.

I’m saying this as a non-ML Marxist.

They are saying the personalities on both sides are the same, which is blatantly false for anyone who has touched grass in their life.

There you go, a high horse and pretending people far on both sides must have one dimensional propaganda. That’s an outright fallacy.

Also, I’m not hateful. I’m just calling out another self-important centrist.

Sankara was a supporter of the USSR and a Marxist-Leninist. Sankara isn’t a non-tankie just because he didn’t live to the tankie phase, he was always acting as an ML. If that makes you sympathize more with MLs, or makes you hate Sankara as you do tankies, either is your choice.

Nah, you’re just a centrist who’s too privileged to actually care about politics, and thinks making blanket statements from a high horse makes you look good.

News flash: it makes you look even more privileged and ignorant.

I read what you said. The personality types that people with these views hold are completely different. You’re just wrong, that’s all.

Yea, that’s more of a self-report on your end if you can’t comprehend nuance and think absolute rejection of classist hierarchy and absolute adherence to classist hierarchy are the same positions.

Is whether or not something is “authoritarian” to you simply determined by vibes, or is it actual actions? By all measures, you should hate Sankara as well. Be consistent.

It’s more that blending doesn’t actually fix the issues with Capitalism. That’s a take by someone who doesn’t actually know why Socialists are Socialists and Communists and just heard about Social Democrscy.

Every time Apple tried to make the iPhone 32 it failed. It can never exist because there is no iPhone 32. History is over and humanity cannot progress. I am very smart.

You do realize that forces in one direction do not entirely prevent actions in the opposite, correct?