• The Spectre@lemmy.mlOP
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    I have no idea how comparing Chinese people to yellow animals is racist 🤔. I really wonder how 🤔

    Next thing you’ll tell me is that comparing black people to monkeys and Jews to demons is racist too. Damn, this woke crowd! /j/s

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        Not so fast. While it is certainly questionable what they are doing and I personally don’t like China either, the Uyghur situation is complicated and Bad Empanada made a detailed analysis of the situation while trying to be unbiased. Most of what we see (or rather saw since the trend kind of died) in western media is very exxagerated and there were reasons that had little to do with ethnicity.

        You can watch it here, it’s very long but worth it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cz9ICFDk8Js

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        I thought blahaj was better than this.

        The US tried to foment division in China by funding and organizing terrorist cells in Xinjiang, and when those efforts failed it concocted and promoted a genocide narrative. Antony Blinken is still pushing this slop, just two weeks ago.

        We see here for example the evolution of public opinion in regards to China. In 2019, the ‘Uyghur genocide’ was broken by the media (Buzzfeed, of all outlets). In this story, we saw the machine I described up until now move in real time. Suddenly, newspapers, TV, websites were all flooded with stories about the ‘genocide’, all day, every day. People whom we’d never heard of before were brought in as experts — Adrian Zenz, to name just one; a man who does not even speak a word of Chinese.

        Organizations were suddenly becoming very active and important. The World Uyghur Congress, a very serious-sounding NGO, is actually an NED Front operating out of Germany […]. From their official website, they declare themselves to be the sole legitimate representative of all Uyghurs — presumably not having asked Uyghurs in Xinjiang what they thought about that.

        The WUC also has ties to the Grey Wolves, a fascist paramilitary group in Turkey, through the father of their founder, Isa Yusuf Alptekin.

        Documents came out from NGOs to further legitimize the media reporting. This is how a report from the very professional-sounding China Human Rights Defenders (CHRD) came to exist. They claimed ‘up to 1.3 million’ Uyghurs were imprisoned in camps. What they didn’t say was how they got this number: they interviewed a total of 10 people from rural Xinjiang and asked them to estimate how many people might have been taken away. They then extrapolated the guesstimates they got and arrived at the 1.3 million figure.

        Sanctions were enacted against China — Xinjiang cotton for example had trouble finding buyers after Western companies were pressured into boycotting it. Instead of helping fight against the purported genocide, this act actually made life more difficult for the people of Xinjiang who depend on this trade for their livelihood (as we all do depend on our skills to make a livelihood).

        Any attempt China made to defend itself was met with more suspicion. They invited a UN delegation which was blocked by the US. The delegation eventually made it there, but three years later. The Arab League also visited Xinjiang and actually commended China on their policies — aimed at reducing terrorism through education and social integration, not through bombing like we tend to do in the West.

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        Source: Western Media

        Which lie 105% of the time. The extra 5% is when they make random shit up and lie more to justify the random shit they made up.

        There is no Uygur genocide. Nice try C.I.A.

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          Source: Western Media

          Which lie 105% of the time. The extra 5% is when they make random shit up and lie more to justify the random shit they made up.

          Compared to what? The obscure, unsubstantiated, suspicious and clearly pro-Chinese news sources referenced here by you and your buddies?

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            red scare bullshit. western media is writing this in order to deflect from the real spying done by the united states. even if the lies told by western propaganda would have anything to do in reality, why would you care about a far away government collecting intelligence about you over the one that can (and will) actually hurt you?

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              why would you care about a far away government collecting intelligence about you over the one that can (and will) actually hurt you?

              Both of you are dangerous in truth. We don’t trust anyone. (⁠ಠ⁠_⁠ಠ⁠)⁠>⁠⌐⁠■⁠-⁠■ Why do you think we use FOSS?

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                i use foss because i like the idea of it (its basically cyber leftism), as well as to hide from western intelligence, since i have the misfortune of living in there. why are YOU using it?

                unlike western nations, china is a a dictatorship of the proletariat, aka a peoples state. you will only be targered, if you are some kind of rightist. i happen to support the targeting of such people, to the point that i believe the prc isnt doing nearly enough in this regard, allowing elements like deng xiaoping to rise through the ranks. cuba and korea are much more consequent in this regard.

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      False. “Chinese people” aren’t being compared to “yellow animals”. The only thing happening here is your dear leader looking like a cartoon Bear 🐻.

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        i am not racist! [insert african leader] just happens to look like a monkey! i am not racist i swear!!!

        same energy. you should do some self criticism. just because western society normalized casual racism against “permitted enemies” doesnt make it okay.

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          Somebody compares your dear supreme dictator to a cartoon bear. You: “You are racist against all Chinese”.

          Even after others clarify that it’s against one person, you have your ears plugged and crying racism. You know what it sounds like? A scripted act to pretend that you’re morally right. In fact, I have seen this so many times. It’s from your masters’ propaganda playbook, isn’t it?

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          You really just compared “African leader” to “a monkey”. I can’t, I can’t believe it. The irony, the sheer irony, it’s delicious, so very delicious, keep feeding me more of this shit.

          You’re completely miss understanding the entire thing. You’re dear lead is being compared to an iconic, childhood beloved, Disney, cartoon bear 🐻, and you think it’s racist? How foolish.

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        No, I am not racist. I just think this Chinese person looks like a yellow animal, but let me just pretend is this one person, so it is okay with others not to call me out on my racism. /s

        I bet it is also okay to say that African leaders I don’t like look like other kinds of primates /s.

        Since I don’t like them it must be okay to be racist towards them /s

        This is what happen when people are not taught critical race theory. They don’t even know that they are being racist 🤦🏾‍♂️

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          Wow! The amount of dishonesty in your words is staggering. Nobody pretended that it was against one person - they mentioned only one person. You’re the one who twisted their words and pretended that it’s against an entire race. In fact, you are the only one who mentioned the Chinese race here.

          And the racist tirade against Africans. They didn’t say that - you did. You made a racist insult in order to argue that others are racist. To be honest, no one else here is anywhere close to a racist as you are.

          And please stop hiding behind ridiculous accusations of racism. It’s an extremely common and cheap tactic employed by autocrats to misdirect.

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          You’re the only one “comparing Chinese people to yellow animals” in truth. Your Irony is delicious to me.