• DanglingFury@lemmy.world
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      1 year ago

      If you believe that then you should work to change people’s minds, like actually research how to do that. The way you currently approach it will only make people disagree with you out of spite. Good luck to you.

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        1 year ago

        Some people really think being a good example of the product of their beliefs and being obnoxiously obtuse and argumentative about their beliefs are equally effective at persuading others to think like them.

        I can tell you no person ever in the history of humanity was convinced by the latter.

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          Worse, if someone attempts to convince me of something I already think is wrong and uses an argument that I am convinced is flawed, they will only make me more sure I was right in the first place.

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                1 year ago

                That’s the most straw man argument I’ve seen in a while.

                Maybe take a step back and think about how using nazi analogies when discussing meat eaters is counterproductive to your beliefs and frigging offensive to large swaths of the global population who were affected by nazis. Those two things are not comparable and you need to do some self education if you think that’s okay or persuasive.

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                  Maybe take another step back and recognize that many people who were tortured by the nazis see the similarities to animal agriculture and are actively against it

                  Edit: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_analogy_in_animal_rights

                  “Perhaps the earliest use of the analogy comes from Edgar Kupfer-Koberwitz, a German concentration camp survivor and journalist, who wrote in 1940 in his “Dachau Diaries” from inside the Dachau Concentration Camp that “I have suffered so much myself that I can feel other creatures’ suffering by virtue of my own”.[4][5] He further wrote, “I believe as long as man tortures and kills animals, he will torture and kill humans as well—and wars will be waged—for killing must be practiced and learned on a small scale”.[4]”

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                The animals are being bred to live and die. Everything loves and dies. If we didn’t eat cows they would be extinct. A billion animals that get to experience being. I am against indoor livestock agribusiness that is a manamade hell on earth, but good local ranchers raising livestock I like. Personally I’d rather live for a while and be eaten than never get to live at all.