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        Where people can vote for their leaders of any political bent, while people on the mainland are machine gunned for peacefully protesting to gain the right to do so. Wumau tankie fascists are all the same.

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          This is like an octopus ink cloud of liberal cope and bullshit

          They still put Chiang “The butcher of Shanghai” Kai Shek on their money to this day. I have some from my time there. Guy was sort of the Zelensky of his day honestly

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      Taiwan aka Republic of China aka state of China aka not a country. I dont care what a hand full of redditors have told you but they dont have a seat at the UN, the United States and EU doesnt recognize it as a sovereign nation, Taiwan depends on Chinese government and Chinese exports.

      Either way, China claims itself to be a democratic socialist country so just own that.

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        Yeah ok man I don’t care about your geopolitics, the point is that the only part of what is considered China which is at all democratic is Taiwan. The PRC is a totalitarian, one party dictatorship.

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            Their existence is allowed as long as they recognize the CCP as the leading party. That is unusual for a Communist state, but it is definitely not a democracy.

            Not that it is a bad thing, it is just not a democracy.

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                Great, I wasn’t talking about America. I am also not American, so maybe you’re right about it being corrupt.

                It doesn’t change the fact that China’s CCP allows other parties in a controlled manner, to such an extent that they are allowed to exist as long as they acknowledge the superiority of the CCP.

                This leads to the tyranny of the majority, as explained in the writings of John Stewart Mill.

                Is it morally wrong? I’m not sure you can judge China the same as other nations. I find China to be very complicated and unique in human history.

                Is it a democracy? Certainly not a full one. The Majority’s tyranny is an easy discerning factor between democracies and republics.

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                    Once you wrote it like this, it is comprehensible. Still, first time I heard it. Don’t know what handegg is too.

                    After reading about the analogy, I fail to see which rules, process or competition was changed (or in this case, conversation) mid-play.

                    I was consistently talking about China, I was consistently talking about their party system and I was consistently talking about it being non-democratic in comparison to Democratic party systems where there are mechanisms to prevent the tyranny of the majority.

                    Also, the tyranny of the majority isn’t a new thing. The formationg of the modern democracy is circa 1800’s. It is a system that was conceived centuries ago. a century before communism. It’s not like I pulled a fast one here.

                    I didn’t even say that it is a bad thing for fuck’s sake. I haven’t even displayed my actual opinion.

                    I fail to see where the goalpost analogy fits here.