Pydio used to be called ajaxplorer and was a pretty solid and lightweight (although featureful) solution, but then they rewrote the UI with lots of misguided choices (touch controls and android inspired interactions on desktop devices) and it became so horrendous, heavy and clunky that I almost forgot about it. I wonder if they reversed the trend (but from the screenshots it doesn’t look so).
Aren’t they not the same thing at all?
I agree with the sentiment and everything, but the whole gaming console industry has gone to crap after they started putting hard drives/storage in them with the goal of needing you to be online and not owning anything anymore. They are all equally despicable for that. Which makes emulation even more essential, just for preserving those games into the future when the online front will inexorably shut down.
That might tell us more about how badly your php process manager and/or db connection handler is set up, seriously. I run nextcloud “natively” (no docker, no nonsense) on hardware that was modest 15y ago (Intel Atom/2GB RAM), and it’s pretty good.
No “love” from my side, I have thousands of users, not thousands of servers so that’s not a solution for any of my problems :)
You can have a look at the communities there: https://programming.dev/communities
Perhaps, but in an energy-scarce world, who would be able to afford living in an old, inefficient house? I obviously hope to be wrong but increasing material price and labour might alone offset whatever price decrease the extra inventory of a decreasing population might bring. I hope to be wrong, ofc.
I think you got lost because self-hosting is very much the point of this community :)
The Keep features you enumerated are pretty rudimentary, and none of that requires the sheer engineering power of a Google to be delivered securely and effectively. Take something like quillpad for instance, it shares a lot of UI paradigms with Keep, but expands in every direction to make the note taking experience and keeping them organized better. So indeed, Google Apps as a captive ecosystem is hard to beat, but resisting the urge to put all your eggs in their basket has some enormous perks which people with experience value a lot.
IIRC, Nintendo switches use xmpp extensively as well. Whatsapp is a modified version of xmpp. Many apps in the wild use xmpp for notifications, signaling and pubsub.
Why’s that? Keep looks and feels like a pretty basic note taking app, I don’t even see any of the usual google “secret sauce” that would make it better, smarter, or more embedded… what is it about keep that you find inimitable?
True, but very unlikely (once your ssh client is configured once and for all), and in that event you can always switch connection (use a data network, proxy, vpn, hop from another server you have ssh access, etc)
Let’s say that you could ban for an indefinitely large amount of time after a single failure to authenticate, that’d make them run out of IPs much quicker than you’d run out of CPU/BW, so I don’t really see the issue
Or, you know, just use key auth only and fail2ban. Putting sshd behind another port only buys you a little time.
Is it measurably better? From a quick look, it’s PHP again (and if your NC runs slow, there’s a fair chance it’s not properly set-up/tuned), and SQLite (so, rather small scale).
I could give you plenty of reasons why you would be worse-off deploying from docker without deep understanding of what’s going on, but to only list a few out of the obvious pile:
your container ships a bunch of things that you do not need and that take-up significant server resources. Not just nextcloud apps that you will never need but get loaded nonetheless, but also things like redis and a full-fledged collabora server that only make sense in a large-scale instances.
your container isn’t tuned for your server because whoever made the container had no way to know that in advance. For instance, It might be that your php-fpm forks beyond your multithreading or IO capabilities, that your application cache isn’t adequate wrt. your system’s RAM memory, etc
your containers duplicate functionalities from each other and from the operating system. You don’t need more than one http server, database, application process manager, interpreter, … but they add-up nonetheless and reduce the pool of available resources from the rest of the system and containers.
I second that. I can’t say mine runs fast because my hardware is very modest, but it runs very decently considering it’s sharing resources with many other services.
In general, it wouldn’t come to my mind to expect good performance by default out of anything pulled from docker. As soon as one starts hosting multiple services and apps simultaneously, containers get in the way or even make impossible proper resource allocation and tuning.
That’s your problem, just there: you deployed a one size fits all blackbox of a container that, by definition, on top of pulling all the inefficiencies and redundancies of docker, isn’t tuned for your specific hardware and operational needs. I get the appeal of containers, but if you want to self-host responsibly, you’ve got to be in control of what’s running and how.
Sorry if this sounds harsh.
Because depending on what I’m sharing and with whom, I may not always want to send 30+ MPix images if I know it’s going to be viewed on a phone/tablet or downloaded from a data network (typically, family reunion stuff that nobody wants a 15MB ultra sharp file of). If the photos might end up on the open internet, I don’t necessarily want my camera’s serial number and other “global IDs” present in the EXIF to be kept, but I might want to share “straight out of the camera” JPEGs with full metadata with my photography enthusiasts friends. That’s one area of the workflow I feel I want to be in control, because it is very contextual.
Fair. Like I wrote previously (either here or in another thread) it’s likely that most self-hosters would at some point consider nextcloud given how versatile it is, and then it pays-off to tune for your config. If you do without, good for ya!
How about nextcloud with only the bare minimum amount of plugins? Filles alone is pretty snappy.