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Because if there’s one thing lemmy loves, it’s intellectually lazy hyperbole.

Man if we could only discuss actual politics instead of edgy teenage revolution fetish.

So for the record, the person who trolled my profile and posted a screenshot trying to make me seem racist, only to get pilloried by additional context, before changing the subject entirely, before finally resorting to his own bizarre ethnic slurs, is the one arguing in good faith. While I am the one pushing “gotcha liberalism” or whatever?

You do you, I guess.

You don’t think calling someone a dog is bigoted? Talk about bad faith.

Sure, the soul of every nation is tarnished by the sins of their fathers. I have no argument with this. That doesn’t excuse the use of racist language or symbology, as the point can easily be made without such denigration.

This is especially ironic because the hexbears are typically falling over themselves to show how egalitarian and tolerant they are, and at least in my view, such language makes that effort seem particularly hollow.

For those who can’t be bothered to spend 30 seconds checking if a lemmygrad user is full of shit, this was my response to racism against Koreans (literally calling them dogs), since I know I’d be banned (again) if I was too mean and called a privileged hexbear poster racist directly.

Sectarian leftist nutters who seem to be extremely overconfident in their amateurish view of philosophy and politics. “The entire world and all of contemporary history is a conspiracy to discredit Lenin” is honestly a pretty shocking view of the world.

The thing about this is fuck all Americans to death amirite?

Lemmy is just as much an information warfare platform as anything on Reddit. The Israel/Hamas coverage has confirmed that pretty conclusively.

I feel like I might have legitimately helped as well by mocking them incessantly for being campists and not socialists

So you want like some mandatory Ludovico Technique for this piece of information, or what? There’s literally a library of Congress article. It has been part of AP US history for as long as I can remember. I’m not even sure what point you are trying to make. That there are tons of wilfully ignorant people in the US (true)? Or that this piece of history has been censored (objectively false)?

You are correct, the American website Wikipedia definitely does not have an article on Haymarket

It’s actually simpler than that. Conservatism does not actually express any positive philosophy at all. Its premise is entirely reactionary.

“You’ll get more conservative when you start paying taxes.”

I have rubbed a bunch of faces in this one as well.

Duh, because in the Bible he was crucified for blasphemy so if he ended up crucified for tax evasion the whole story would have fallen apart.

They were just residents of the city at the time, and obviously were aware of the massive protests but can also confirm second hand reports of violence and may have known people who died. They unambiguously expressed solidarity with the students, but you really need to press to get them to discuss it, and my Chinese is often insufficiently elegant for these topics. I actually tried to get them to make a video interview but they didn’t want to. They are in the process of getting US residency and I think they might be more open to the idea once they are fully moved over.

They are definitely well aware of the censorship surrounding the issue though. They stop short of speculation about what actually happened but they will tell you that the Chinese media did not report the situation accurately starting in the weeks prior. When I asked if western media reported it more accurately they responded in dialect or idiom I didn’t quite understand. Possibly some version of “how the fuck should I know?”

That’s about the extent of that interaction. I have gotten them to discuss politics on a few occasions. I think more than anything the person in question just kind of wants to be heard and tell their story, but has real fears about doing so.

Lemmygrad and hexbear are extremist, primarily Marxist-Leninist communities which take a very narrow view of socialist philosophy and insist that this view represents the one true socialism, rejecting or even mocking basically all contemporary socialist thought which falls outside their bubble. Their knowledge of the topic actually ends up being pretty shallow, and they frequently cite philosophers who actually reject their autocratic preferences.

Basically they are “socialists” who have completely lost (or in many cases, never followed) the plot, and have reverted to a core philosophy of reactionary anti-west contrarianism. The term within the socialist community for this is “campist” but these people actually take that to an entirely different level of indecipherable discourse.

I’ve spoken to Chinese people who saw the protests with their own eyes.

Y’all really just be sitting there with shit on your ass while you browse??!