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Fair enough! I was curious if Marx was included, as he’s very “authoritarian” (at least as far as I understand it). If not, I don’t really have any argument with your list.

A tankie would be defending the soviet union. Tankie =/= communist. Tankie = authoritarian “communist”.

What theory writers inform your non-authoritarian communism?

https://dashthered.medium.com/communism-always-works-bce14ee96f2b

https://archive.ph/i9QTp

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I think they’re doing an ironic thing, tbh

They’re not federated yet, you just gotta open it in your browser.

This is going to take me a lot longer to reply to, unfortunately! Just timing in my day, and the need to sit down at a computer to reply. Catch you in a bit! :)

* edit: actually, /u/KommandoGzd@lemmygrad.ml has a better response than I would put together, I’ll just second theirs.

No fuckin’ shit

“People who built the Volkswagen, people who genocided millions of Ukrainians, what’s the difference?”.

This isn’t comparable to my Auschwitz comparison, because this picks two unrelated things. The USSR also didn’t genocide millions of Ukrainians.

Though the OP didn’t even mention communists at all, he mentioned tankies, as in the people who actively deny the atrocities of stalinism and maoism. It’s weird that you’d jump to defending communism.

I don’t see a difference between Marxist-leninism, “Stalinism” (not a real thing, though sometimes people use the term), and communism. I’m happy to go into the nuts and bolts, if you’d find that interesting. I’ll try to use Marxism-leninism going forward, if that’s easier.

But in an online discussion about the evils of both, it sort of doesn’t really matter. They both have a track record of authoritarianism and mass genocides, and I don’t get along well with people which defend either.

If these are the reasons you oppose both fascism and Marxism-leninism, do you oppose Liberalism the same amount?

Idk which sentences you’re referring to here, honestly.

Could it have something to do with their post announcing intent to federate trying to both-sides the Russian invasion of Ukraine? https://www.hexbear.net/post/280770 (not even getting into the comments there).

I don’t see how that’s relevant to the hexbear defederation. Lemmygrad takes a stronger stance on the SMO in general, we’re still federated.

Personally I’d be cool with defederation from lemmygrad too, for the same reason.

So what?

You actually do think one is worse than the other.

Of course I do, I admitted it in the same comment. I just don’t care if OP thinks one is better or not.

The point I’m arguing against is Englishmobsters implication that they’re the same thing. I think of the Auschwitz comment as the same point as my expansion that they are two distinct political systems.

I very deeply care about the differences between communism and fascism. That’s why I started this comment chain.

Dawg I’m literally sticking to the argument in my first comment. What do you want from me?

The fediverse has anti-social personality disorder 😁

You’re not making a response to my argument - this is a copy paste of some sort.

I am arguing that communism and fascism are factually different.

You have not made an argument that they are factually similar, just trotted out the usual unsourced western claims against communism.

Most defederations are blocking tiny dead instances to avoid bot spam. It’d be easy to make an explanation in most cases!

Absolutely hilarious that half the fediverse is preemptively running scared of hexbear (with no real reason), and we’re worried about the 'grad being too ML for them.