I think the fact that you’ve spent a lot of time in liberal organizations is why you think that way about where it falls on the continuum between progressivism and conservatism.

Interesting that you characterize my statement as "both sides"ing. I would say the thrust of my statement is not “both sides” but “one side”. America does not have a progressive party, only conservative and conservative-lite. Given the choice, of course I’ll choose the latter, not least because the former is so far off the deep end it may never recover as a party. That does not mean I think that both parties are the same.

Visually:

--------Progressivism ------------------------ Center ------ Liberalism --------------------------- Conservatism.

Liberals and conservatives are more similar than liberals and progressives.

Misanthrope?

Yes. It belies the fact that they don’t want to think about anything past surface-level reactionary takes.

Very true; I don’t oppose the idea of a Pride Month. I just respond to corporate allyship with the same way the corps regard any marginalized group - indifference.

Sorry, I was a little defensive because some others seemed to think I was arguing with you. Your explanation made sense, though.

I 100% agree with you, but I don’t think the alternative is hate (for most corporations, anyway…); I think the actual attitude for most big corps is indifference. They just don’t give a shit about any group other than potential customers.

Aha. See, that explains the disconnect. Thank you.

I’m not… correcting you, I’m just explaining that I never hear anyone pronouncing tour such that it rhymes with either pronunciation of sewer.

Drainage system = soo-er
Person who sews = soh-er
Exploring a place, with or without a guide = tohr

That’s typically how I hear those pronounced. Idk, I get the sense that some think I’m trying to correct the OP when I’m just trying to figure out how the hell something is pronounced.

Whoa what? I’ve never heard anyone pronounce tour as tu-er. At that point you might as well slap an umlaut on that bad boy

I’ve never heard anyone pronounce “tour” as rhymes with “sewer” in English. Perhaps in other languages?

Bore rhymes with tour… no?

Feel like that’s as correct as we can get, as Americans.

I’m just not sure about the color, is all.