You are going to need to go beyond vegan and need to learn how to live on air and love only.

Eh, such products minimize the waste of things that would otherwise be thrown away and lost. Us humans have been processing the scraps and leftovers of our food into other edible products for as long as we can remember - Waste not, Want not.

The problem is the disconnect modern urbanites have from their food and not knowing how it gets made. If you like deli ham eat it! (in moderation as all things should be), it’s not all that different in processing than a hot dog, sausage, or hamburger. Or even cheese…

Yes it is.

When processed, the meat bits, (and yes they are leftover meat bits), are ground into a paste with water added, (nearly all ham you buy has “Water Added” listed on the tag - exception would be something like “country ham” or prosciutto ham), then pumped into a carboy, (the paste is then called babbit), seasonings are then mixed in and then molded by machine into a glorious block 'o ham! To be sold at your local Deli as part of a delicious sandwich for which you happily pay your “hardly earned” monies.

Never let ideology get in the way of practicality. I like your MIL.

You for got to mention the free and heavily discounted prices to get Mac computers into schools to get kids hooked on them. Which is something they still do to this I think.

I used to be a Toolmaker long ago and far away. And there is a, and not undeservedly so, stereotype of Toolmakers as cranky old assholes. And the job tends to make us intolerant assholes.

I too had reached a point where I had enough of being angry, cranky, and hateful to everyone and myself every day. So I finally took all that cranky angry hatred and decided to channel it into something more constructive - I became a Medic for the next 15 years. And when that pissed me off enough I decided to teach math in my tiny rural school for 4 years until I retired.

I am a very slow learner…

Damn it! It’s Duck, Duck, Grey Duck! NOT goose!

***A Minnesotan argues about the important stuff

As an old medic, I will warn each and everyone of you to never, ever, ever go out to eat with a group of EMS people. Unless you really want to be scarred for life.

Life and death be real and very often not pretty.

The miss use of the term “billet”. As in “Made from Billet Aluminum to military specs” I have literally sourced metals from all over the world. Ain’t no one ever tried to sell me “billet” anything.

A billet is an old term that was used when iron and steels were smelted and then poured in to either kind of a bread loaf mold or a round shape called a bloom. It would then be reheated at a later time and then formed into the final shape. No one would use “billet” or a “bloom” to make anything from it. It would have been “sponge” like and to soft to be useful for anything.

Fecking sales trying to market to ignorant people with a term that doesn’t mean what anyone thinks it means.

It matters very little to me if votes are made public. It’s not even a top 20 reason I’m a Lemmy user.

Edited for clarity. I should have tea before I post…

Screw the sissy coffee brands. I’m drinking the Iron Goddess of Mercy Oolong this morning. And tomorrow I might have some Lumber Slut Shu Pu Er.

I only want products with a manly name!

“A pint’s a pound the world around” is the ditty. Wherever do you think the metric system got the idea for 1l = 1kg? The serial numbers just got filed off that idea and claimed it as if they invented it. If you look closely, there is a shocking number of base ideas of the, “common” usage measurement system, were simply copied and just re scaled and give new names. Since the base values differ, Celsius and kelvin ain’t the same. Not that it matters of everyday usage. I just want to know if it’s going to be cold, nice or hot when I get up in the morning. I don’t worry about what scale I’m using.

It’s pretty amazing when you start really looking at things to understand just where something originated from, it becomes apparent that there is very little new under the sun.

You make projects to the buyers specs. But I have made US Customary machines and parts as requested by companies in India, Pakistan, and Great Britain if I remember correctly, (I’ve been out of the business for a good while and I’m now retired altogether). I can’t remember anything in Germany or Japan. The Chinese were always whatever dope dreams they were on that particular day. They could be particularly bad about mixing and matching units for no reason or just making something up out of thin air.

Let’s see, just off the top of head, US thread patterns are a bit better the the metric ones. While it doesn’t mean as much these days thanks to CNC and G20/G21, (because the machines don’t care). The inch pattern of threads are a little bit stronger, (it’s not a whole lot more), and due to the threads per inch standard, it’s easier to just count the number of threads over a set distance, (1 inch), vs trying to measure a thread crest to crest. This makes identifying threads pitches easier with inch pattern threads when trying to make repair parts. And back when manual machines ruled the shops, inch pattern threads made screw cutting lathes smaller, simpler, and cheaper than metric lathes. You needed fewer gears and shafts, fewer bearings, and less cast iron to make the head stock. This made US lathes faster and cheaper to make and cheaper to buy. Plus you can cut more different thread pitches on an inch pattern lathe vs a metric lathe due to not needing to resort to removing covers of the metric lathe to make gear changes and even swapping to a different threading dial despite the QC gear boxes.

These small cheap lathes is why, in their own small way, during WW2 the US industrial capabilities grew so fast. Anyone could buy a small lathe for a few hundred dollars, literally carry it up to as second story flat and start making all those small parts for the war effort. Small benchtop lathes were manufactured by the tens of thousands and they were all bought by people, many of whom had little to no experience in manufacturing to start making extra money in their off time from their day jobs. And while many got worn out and scrapped over the years, you can still find those little South Bend, Clausing, and Atlas lathes in hobby workshops in the US today. And they are lovingly used and doted over by their owners.

US Customary Units are slowly and surely fading into the sunset. And at some point they will just organically fade away, (it’s why there has never been a national law forcing people to switch), as the casual US population just starts using them more and more. We already use the metric system to buy soda and whisk(e)y to searching for that missing 10mm wrench just like every one else on the planet. The only places you still see US Customary units being commonly used is in construction, (inches and feet), travel distances, (miles), and temperature, (Fahrenheit). Construction has backwards compatibility issues making it very difficult to switch from using a 2"x4" to a 50mmx100mm piece of lumber. Not to mention plumbing problems. And distances and speed limits on a road sign don’t really make a lot of difference in how they are shown for the average traveler. And for deciding just how to dress for the weather, what units you are using really doesn’t matter. (Why doesn’t the metric world use Kelvin to measure the temperature in daily use?) It’s not the first time a measurement system has been eclipsed in human history and even the metric system likely will get replaced by something else in the far future. In the end, neither system is head and shoulders better than the other. Nor have I ever claimed such. They both are, after all, just arbitrary units made up by some random dude hundreds of years ago.

G20/G21…

I do and perhaps more than you. I don’t know why you brought your point about inches and scale when I had already pointed out that those who think it’s such a “gotcha” argument are wrong and why.

Again, use the measurement system and units best suited to the task at hand. And never forget, every measurement system is just a bunch of made up units by some random dude and then modified by some other random dudes at random times.

Oddly enough I have helped build a couple of items that flew on the space shuttle back in the day. Which is more than you can say. But most of my work involved industrial machines for manufacturing lines and associated custom tooling. I have machines all over the planet.

Millimeter are not practical for measuring long distances either. And measuring the length of a piece of lumber isn’t a “long distance” either

Mostly. But not always. Again use what is best for the job. An idea that often fails here.

I’ve designed and built those machines. We don’t care. Pick the proper units for the job and go at it.

This is among the dumbest internet arguments ever.

G20/G21. The machines don’t care, my digital calipers, micrometers, rulers, and 3D CAD software don’t care which system is being used. So why should I have my undies in a bunch about which is better? I use the measurement system best suited for the task at hand - whether that’s metric, US customary, or light years.

As for not knowing how many inches are in a mile, that’s about the stupidest internet point ever. No one cares about that, well maybe some civil engineer might need to very rarely care in some unusual situation. The scale of measurement is wrong for inches. In fact, most people don’t care much about the actual distance away something is, they mostly care about how long does it take to get there. The odds are pretty good you have no idea how far it is from your front door to the grocery store in miles or kilometers. But you DO know how long it takes to get there. Whether by foot, bike, bus, or car.

Or perhaps try ungoogled chrome if you enjoy Chrome.