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  • Umbrias@beehaw.orgtoMemes@lemmy.mlWho needs Skynet
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    3 months ago

    More likely you’re more interested in finding a way to disagree with the concept of posiwid than in doing basic research or listening.

    It’s funny when y’all use “fear mongering” for people pointing out systemic issues with ai and its hype. Though it’s honestly tragic how uninterested you are in considering why AI and its hype is being criticized. Whatever makes the exploitative slave labor trained energy hungry silicon make venture capital money disappear, eh?


  • Umbrias@beehaw.orgtoMemes@lemmy.mlWho needs Skynet
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    3 months ago

    It’s a very common talking point now to claim technology exists independent of the culture surrounding it. It is a lie to justify morally vacant research which the, normally venture capitalist, is only concerned about the money to be made. But engineers and scientists necessarily go along with it. It’s not not your problem because we are the ones executing cultural wants, we are a part of the broader culture as well.

    The purpose of a system is, absolutely, what it does. It doesn’t matter how well intentioned your design and ethics were, once the system is doing things, those things are its purpose. Your waste heat example, yes, it was the design intent to eliminate that, but now that’s what it does, and the engineers damn well understand that its purpose is to generate waste heat in order to do whatever work it’s doing.

    This is a systems engineering concept. And it’s inescapable.



  • Umbrias@beehaw.orgtoMemes@lemmy.mlWho needs Skynet
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    3 months ago

    Those people doing the majority of the lumping, and it’s not even close, are the corporations themselves. The short hand exists. Machine learning is doing fine. Intentionally misinterpreting a message to incidentally defend the actions of the corporations doing the damage you are opposed to ain’t it.


  • Umbrias@beehaw.orgtoMemes@lemmy.mlWho needs Skynet
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    3 months ago

    You should really try and consider what it means for technology to be a cultural feature. Think, genuinely and critically, about what it means when someone tells you that you shouldn’t judge the ethics and values of their pursuits, because they are simply discovering “universal truths”.

    And then, really make sure you ponder what it means when people say the purpose of a system is what it does. Why that might get brought up in discussions about wanton resource spending for venture capitalist hype.


  • Umbrias@beehaw.orgtoMemes@lemmy.mlWho needs Skynet
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    3 months ago

    No. I’m just not fear mongering things I do not understand.

    Neither am I. When you’re defending whatabputism, it’s best you at least try to represent the arguments of the person you’re arguing with accurately.

    False equivalence is a classic. Biotechnology is not a technology, for example, it’s billions of technologies informed, designed, and implemented, by humans, technology is a cultural feature.

    Technology as this thing free from the ethics of its use is tech bro ancap cope to justify technological pursuits with empty ethical value. You can think “banning human progress in any way” is evil. But that would make you wildly uncritical of your own beliefs.

    Feel free to take your arguments back to e/acc, where that level of convenience induced niavety is considered rhetorically valid.


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    3 months ago

    So you’re using a different specific and niche technology (which directly benefits and exists because of) the technology that is the subject of critique, and acting like the subject technology behaves like yours?

    “Google is doing a bad with z”

    “z can’t be bad, I use y and it doesn’t have those problems that are already things that happened. In the past. Unchangeable by future actions.”

    ??








  • Umbrias@beehaw.orgtoMemes@lemmy.mlI Think I Am Committing Voter Fraud
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    6 months ago

    I’d more likely agree that it’s a cold way to put it. Hardly flowery, and hardly is someone trying to convince you to vote a certain way voter suppression. That’s just called politics. That’s like, the core conceit of an election, no less.

    If you’re going to protest vote at least be honest about what it is, “it’s not a spoiler vote, I’m just intentionally not voting for the candidate I [most likely] prefer on this candidate I know won’t win.”