Meanwhile McDonalds dips their fries in meat flavoring, so thats fun.

I do the same thing with chipotle.

The crunch wrap is for taco bell fans who got tired of their tacos, don’t start there!

Get a soft shell, hard shell, and a crunch wrap and eat them in that order. You also have to get a mountain dew Baja blast as thats taco bells own flavor.

Only fast food place with vegan food too.

Well you did just state my first point in more words, so yes I agree, since artists aren’t getting paid in most cases anyways, stealing their work is sort of morally grey, but mostly because its not their work anymore.

But thats not true across the board, and its impossible to know which companies are the ones that do treat their employees well enough that it would affect them to steal it.

So why don’t we maybe repair that bond between an artist and their work so that it makes sense not to steal art from people again? Copyright could be changed to do this couldn’t it?

Its hard to justify stealing entertainment. Most arguments are centered around the fact the artist usually makes almost nothing so you aren’t even paying them for it.

Copyright makes sense to protect creativity to an extent, until we figure out some other way artists can make a living.

Jewish americans make up 2% of the population though?

Cats in the wild won’t hunt anything too large, but they do like chunky animals that have as much meat as they can hunt. Rabbits are one of the biggest animals they hunt. In areas that have rabbits, its usually their main source of food. Any small game that size or smaller is a target though, including birds.

Duck, Turkey, cow, pig, deer, and bison all are not on the table for a cat to hunt. Cats will only scavenge if they are starving and otherwise will prefer to hunt for their food.

Your vague belief that it might be possible a cat stumbles upon a bison that just has died of natural causes does not make standard cat food natural or inline with the cats personal choices.

Very true. Similar to cow milk, there is a public perception that there is no cost to take it, or to induce a female cow into pregnancy to cause it in the first place.

So y’all are feeding your cats a natural diet of small game?

Which animal in cat food would they ever eat in real life? Which cat is going to go find synthetic taurine to eat? What about the herd of cats that exclusively eats the diseased and rotted meat that isnt fit for humans?

If you are looking for someone to blame for vegan cat food then look at the quality of commercial cat food.

One point, we already make the decision for our pets diet. You are already supposed to consult a vet or nutritionist if you care about ensuring the animal is healthy, vegan food or not.

Its not a moral decision for the cat in this case anyways, its in service of their health first and foremost. If the cat can’t be healthy on a vegan diet, or just simply doesn’t like it, then a vegan will look for the next best thing that could be the healthiest fit for their pet, and see how it goes.

Conversely, plenty of non vegan owners will buy whatever random food is sold in their box store, do zero research past a facebook/reddit corporate circle jerk, and then pat themselves on the back for being such great owners.

The simple fact that vegans are involving pet nutritionists should be a clue as to their priorities. You could also simply ask your vet about it, just like I did, and find out that they won’t accuse you of animal abuse.

I think part of the honey thing is its not so clear if we are hurting or harming them, so its best to play it safe until then. Ive also heard it argued that bees don’t make extra honey, so thats another reason but I’m not sure the validity.

They main problem is that its currently as humane as is commercially viable. Which sorta means profits come first, animal welfare second.

Also people need to talk about the people who work in that industry and the effects it has on their mental health. If you care about people then you wouldnt want anyone exposed to such a workplace.

It mostly depends whether unions are successful or not under the current administration. Unionizing has gone bad before. You can’t always blame the workers for not believing it would help, theres a lot of pressure from the other side.

And thats the reason people dont like talking about taylor swift the great musician, because thats not what happened.

I think what they mean is that its not taylor swifts music that is impressive. She spends a lot of time nurturing her fan base and puts on the kinds of shows they want to see.

I think its fair to have the discussion around whether its difficult to write the music she does. I’d argue the instrumentals are usually very simple, and many songs use electronic versions rather than live instruments. Its both over simplistic and mechanical but its very catchy and repetitive.

The lyrical content is another side of it and she is a strong singer, although the perspective she carries in songs misses with a lot of the older crowd for some reason. She comes across to me as someone who is adept at turning misfortune into fortune. After long enough its hard to feel bad for misfortune when you know it will work out in her advantage anyways, and I’m sure she knows this too.

One study estimated 1% of cat owners feed their cat a vegan diet. Why do you think that might be? Are they all extremist animal abusers? Or is it possible you had an assumption that turned out to be wrong and now don’t know how to reconcile?

So if you dont agree with someone they are an extremist, got it.

You are aware vegan cats exist right? Like its already a thing, and its being studied.

https://news.uoguelph.ca/2021/03/u-of-g-researchers-first-to-study-health-effects-of-vegan-diets-on-cats/

Y’all are so confidently wrong about stuff its crazy, and then y’all pat yourselves in the back for all grouping up and agreeing together.

Just because a lot of people are on one side of a position does not make it the right position, you must be aware there is more to think about right?

Do you just not believe vegan cats exist?

https://news.uoguelph.ca/2021/03/u-of-g-researchers-first-to-study-health-effects-of-vegan-diets-on-cats/

Supposedly they’d die right? Not live long healthy lives? Or live longer than cats on a standard diet?

Most vegans would allow an exception for certain lifestyles. People hunting for their homestead aren’t going to cause a global issue like is currently happening.

Ideally we wouldnt hunt at all but thats like some sort of futuristic goal. Noones going to tell you to starve your family to appease veganism, thats not the point.

The point is to reduce suffering and abuse wherever possible. Sometimes its not possible.