Coelacanth

I can’t believe the old cold war fears of a Russian invasion of Sweden are actually coming true. Thanks, America. Fucking hell.

I mean… maybe? Those are nice things of course, but if I wanted to start using an alternative to TikTok I would never consider something without an algorithm. The whole point - for me at least - is to waste time eating digital slop served to you by an algorithm so that you don’t have to know what you want to watch when you sit down and open it up. If I already knew what I wanted to watch I wouldn’t be on an app like this, I’d be searching up the video or subject on another platform.

The amount of April fucking 1st videos that would now be indistinguishable from normal videos alone makes the idea of upload date removal outright dangerous in my opinion.

Wait YouTube is disabling upload date and view counter?

I believe “Russian Bot Farm Presence” is the preferred metric of social network relevance in the scientific community.

Iceshrimp is also in a weird place right now, as it’s currently also in maintenance mode while the ongoing iceshrimp.NET full rewrite is happening. Seeing the OP’s comments about the Firefish codebase, that rewrite might be just what’s needed - provided it’s actually completed.

I’ve said it before and caught flak but I’ll say it again: I really, truly hate the naming conventions Kbin introduced. “Reduces” is maybe the worst offender but “magazines” too is a completely nonsensical name for communities.

I’d still rather have algorithmic recommendations of what’s been “hot” lately in the tags I follow over a chronological feed. But I’m considering giving Sharkey/Firefish/Iceshrimp another go.

Hm, messy. Thanks for the reply. It’s like we’re so close to good interoperability, but yet so far.

Does following a community spam your feed with every reply to every thread in that community, or just with new posts?

I’m not on any of the services currently, but I have tried Mastodon in the past and point 4. was what made me bounce off it. I know Mastodon flaunts its algorithm-free feed as almost a point of pride, but as a user it just doesn’t do it for me. I could not get it to serve me the type of content I wanted the way I wanted, and it just felt like way too much work for what I was looking for.

So does Lemmy, to an extent. It doesn’t support microblogs directly, but Mastodon users can post to a community by @-ing it and can reply to comments on Lemmy, and we can reply to their replies and posts.

I think if you’re hosting your own instance you could theoretically migrate the whole instance and keep your followers, right? Though again, not relevant until a stable release and even then, if it works why change it.

Even though my “main” account would have died with firefish.social I think I actually still have a Calckey.world account kicking around somewhere from when I looked at Firefish last, but thanks for the offer!

That’s fair. I remember Firefish had a bunch of drama a while back and the main Firefish.social instance died, but I’m glad it has a stable and active dev team now. Someone else I was talking about this with recommended the upcoming Iceshrimp .NET rewrite, but I don’t know enough about these things to know the distinct advantages. Makes sense not to bother if migrating still breaks followers.

I don’t know, getting off TikTok was probably good for me so maybe I shouldn’t pursue this algorithmic feed diversion desire I have. I just have an itch sometimes.

Are you happy with Firefish in its current state or are you looking at any of the forks or rewrites?

I don’t disagree that killing the algorithmic feed is a good thing.

I’m so torn on this. I’ve tried looking at Mastodon but the chronological feed is just not giving me what I want. Maybe I’m permanently ruined by algorithms. Firefish with its antennas sounded like an interesting compromise but that project turned messy and I don’t really know where to go from there. Wait for the Iceshrimp.net code rewrite?

Does Tusky display threaded content properly when browsing Lemmy?

Looks like PieFed is experimenting with a potential workaround.

Cool solution!

Ah, I see! Thanks for the explanation. I’d go back and check but firefish.social isn’t around anymore.

It’s really a shame since interoperability is such (theoretical) benefit of ActivityPub, but what can you do.