Spoiler, that link is appalling and managed to pop up a bunch of weird shit on my phone despite all my blockers.

I spend 9-12 hours a day working on a computer listening to audio on headphones. I am so glad my workplace decided to go fully and permanently remote. I can’t imagine a situation where me being in an office would improve my work performance in any way.

However, my partner hates working from home and desperately missed having an office to go to during the pandemic. His company closed their office as well, so now he just meets up with his boss a few times a week to work at a cafe or something. I wouldn’t mind that but I have a ton of peripherals I need to use in addition to my computer and the couple times I’ve tried it has been more irritating than anything else to lug everything around and spend 15 minutes setting everything up.

I really like this take and love it when I come across it in media.

It’s not so much about offending someone (and yes, people absolutely do sometimes get aggressively upset about it) and more about attempting to change my own mental habits. I believe like race, sexual orientation, and politics, gender is a personal topic that doesn’t really need to enter into a casual, never to be repeated interaction between two people. You don’t say “excuse me, old person,” based on your perceptions of another’s appearance. Why is gender any different? It certainly isn’t an objective concept or one that can be readily or factually assumed. It’s outmoded and unnecessary.

Also, as I commented earlier, if I am using what I mean to be a term of respect to make someone else feel confident and comfortable, and through my language I risk doing the opposite, why would I want to do that if it’s something I can personally change?

I mean, I don’t think people being happy in self directed work from a comfortable environment free from the scrutiny and drama of coworkers really says anything at all about “what has the world come to.” If I want to socialize, I do that outside of my work hours, and my work is far more productive and enjoyable without the constant interference and distraction of either coworkers or the general public. My experience with my past workplaces are my own, and I am far happier and have a much better quality of life without forcible socialization with people I would under no other circumstances outside of prison or a mass transport breakdown spend most of my waking hours around.

I am genuinely quite happy with my life. I have friends, family, a longterm partner, pets, a career that I love (that I believe does a genuine service to my fellow humans), money in the bank, and rewarding hobbies. I highly value my free time and like to use it how I see fit, instead of trying to wedge myself into social situations I don’t find enjoyable or fulfilling. If that makes me a hermit, I am totally fine with that.

(Also just saying you may find a higher than average number of people who are introverted or value alone time posting on a relatively niche social media site with barriers to entry that require at least some level of computer savvy).

Fair enough! I do use it pretty frequently. I would really like it if someone said that to me, so maybe it isn’t as impolite as I perceive it. Thanks.

Very fortunately, I now work from home in a job with basically zero interaction with anyone at all (it’s great) so this mostly applies to casual social interactions at say, a grocery store. I have to say though, using your suggestion in this context is actually hilarious and would be super gratifying.

Thanks for engaging in productive discussion! And yes, I fully realize that in almost all but very specific and relatively easily identifiable cases, misgendering is something that happens accidentally and is not intended to be injurious. But for anyone who does not identify with their gender assigned at birth, it really does feel super bad.

I love that you also seem to have the same regard for social politness as I do. I feel like as someone who wants to use terms of respect to make others feel confident and comfortable, the possibility that I may accidentally do the very opposite of that is something that makes me want to try and better the way I interact.

Eh, it costs me nothing and actually helps me with a personal goal I have to not make assumptions about someone’s identity based on what I perceive. As someone who has been misgendered many times in the past, it truly hurts, and while that may be a personal problem, I don’t really love going around potentially causing others to feel hurt in any way.

I don’t think it is univerally okay to make assumptions about someone’s personal identity before you know it. I am happy calling someone sir or ma’am after I know their gender identity. But in a casual interaction between strangers, there is no need for it at all and it is just an ingrained and outdated social convention that I personally am striving to move past.

I’ve been trying to degender my language. I grew up saying “thank you (or excuse me, yes/no, etc) sir/ma’am” and then being in customer facing positions for years just absolutely cemented that in my mind to the point where it is an absolute knee jerk reaction to make assumptions about the gender of others. It’s an awful habit and makes me cringe every time I do it. I try to either just avoid the gender identifier (“thank you.”) which to my mind sounds impolite, or use gender neutral terms like “friend” which REALLY sound impolite. It’s tough but I’m working on it! The real trouble is getting my brain to stop gendering others and as a quite elderly millenial who actually identifies as Agender it is an annoying and difficult task. I’m envious of younger folks who won’t grow up with these kinds of ideas as a default.

I collect special interests, usually related generally to weird history and hobbies. Currently my obsessions are M/M historical romance novels (I’ve read/listened to ~60 this year so far), knitting lace shawls, and succulents, but only two specific genuses (Haworthia and Crassula). These things take up all my non-work waking hours and most of my waking thoughts.