I recently got into the world of self-hosting, and although I’m doing it through a VPS I’ve learned many interesting things, even so, I’ve only had my VPS contracted for 10 days, and of those 10 days, 8 I spent burning my head learning concepts that I had never heard or understood, and actually it’s funny because I remember that’s what it was like to learn to use Linux.
To begin with, I started with Ubuntu 22.04 and docker, in some situations installing the service was simple, running a command in my console and opening a browser in localhost and the port used, simple, but as I was installing services I found some that they simply exceeded my patience and knowledge, as was Peertube where I simply do not understand why I need to put a name and a password to a thousand different databases, and many times they use concepts like <SECRET KEY> I don’t have the slightest idea what it means.
And so, I came across Yunohost, who makes the selfhosting process miserably easy, but so easy it honestly makes me feel dirty, to the point that I remember dualbooting Windows simply out of fear of Linux.
Now, I have 100% intentions to learn all those concepts that I don’t know and manage my servers on my own and it’s not that I’m “afraid” to do things on my own, but I need a stable server where I can have my services hosted, I can’t create a docker instance to realize the following week that I restart the server to update that I forgot to point to a persistent volume and I lost all my data, which didn’t happen to me but it was possible because in the end I do this for hobby and I’m experimenting.
And I don’t know, I don’t feel exactly “good” with Yunohost, I mean, it works great but what if for example I want to host something that is not in their list of supported services? I basically screwed myself. I feel like I’m in the same situation where I dualbooted Windows just for fear of Linux.
Edit: Thank you all for commenting! I am not answering them one by one because it would take me too long, but I want to clarify that I do read the messages and I agree with most of the comments, if not all! Although yes, I won’t keep burning my head over it, while my VPS works, I’ll learn everything I can virtualizing on my own PC.
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So true. I’ve done most of the things you list lol
I was just pondering upgrading my current ‘old-computer’ server, but it suits my needs right now and and upgrading would only serve to increase the % available numbers of the hardware.
It is a really deep rabbit hole, but you’re right, self control is necessary.
Nah fuck that, work smarter not harder
Don’t let elitism ruin the adventure for you. Enjoy your success while you take time to learn other crap.
Working smarter is in understanding how your computer, systems, and services work. Yunohost is good for getting started and wading the waters of doing it yourself. The real fun and satisfaction in the hobby is putting in the hard work, learning, and growing smarter for it.
Yunohost is, to me anyways, a good stepping stone in learning the hosting side of things. You can have something up and running while you learn the rest.
I don’t think you should feel bad about it, everyone needs some kind of “training wheels” or “guard rails” when they’re first getting in to any hobby.
I think of it in terms of my other hobbies, would I have started off in electronics repair if I had to fix a modern motherboard for my first project? Maybe, but I would have struggled mightily. Instead I started doing simpler circuits and worked my way up while learning theory and technique.
Its all good, I use yunohost as well and have a second server for the stuff that arent on their list like minecraft server for example, if you want to host something that isnt on their list, you can set up a second server on raspberry for example and play with reverse proxy.
Youre good. Self hosting is what you define it as. No one elses opinion of it matters.
I run a combo of homelab apps and vps apps.
All that matters is if it works for you
If it works for you and allows you to start learning, there’s no problem with it. Too many people seem to think that if you haven’t compiled whatever yourself, it’s not true “self hosting” but you should do what works best for you to get to the goal you want.
Holly crap that looks amazing. I just installed Ubuntu server and got paperless working, but I think I’m gonna redo it with yunohost. Thanks for the lead!
Ok that didn’t work, back to unbuntu…
If there’s an automated set up, absolutely go for it, you shouldn’t be doing the same mundane task over and over again. I, however, recommend at least once to do it yourself/go over the docs just to understand how to troubleshoot when stuff breaks or if it interests you how the software works. For example: A lot of people think that Watchtower queries the docker repo to see when it was last updated and that’s how it processes it’s updates. The truth is, watchtower downloads the entire image, checks it against your currently used image and if it’s not the same it updates. What then happens is that server maintainers set the poll interval really low (like 10-15m) and end up using a lot of bandwidth.
