• Neuromancer@lemm.ee
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    Don’t say what conservatives want as that is a straw man argument.

    Schools are already free and public.

    Most people do not want to abolish the police. Crime would soar as there would be nothing to stop the criminals.

    You get a monthly check for groceries, it’s called a job. I would like to see paid time off. My employer gives 5 months off, which is very generous. I do think we need something at a national level.

    No, I wouldn’t touch communism with a ten foot pole. I will read anything suggested, but it killed millions of people, and not sure how you can say you want to abolish the police but vote for communism when the two are linked heavily in the real world. I have never seen as many police as I did in a communist country. I think this best take away about communism is if it was so great, why were people fleeing from it rather than to it?

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      Schools are already free and public

      Not Pre-K for most parents, and schools are only “free” and “public” for now, thanks to conservatives and liberals alike. College, tech college, and other educational programs are also not free and need to be. Private schools need to be abolished.

      Most people do not want to abolish the police. Crime would soar as there would be nothing to stop the criminals.

      First, okay? I said me, not everyone. Second, that’s objectively not true. If you care about a data-driven argument that shows how policing increases crime, see Alex Vitale’s End of Policing. You can download it for free in a bunch of different formats here.

      You get a monthly check for groceries, it’s called a job.

      Ah, so you truly are a conservative. A person’s worth is only equal to their productive in the blood-soaked economy machine. A child can’t have a job, jackass, that’s why giving new parents a check for groceries helps their income as their total costs rise.

      I think this best take away about communism is if it was so great, why were people fleeing from it rather than to it?

      You need to do some self-crit and question everything you have been taught. For example, there are more people in prison right now in the USA than there have ever been in a gulag. If you genuinely want to learn more about communism from a communist perspective, there are plenty of places to turn. You can start on the Prole Library with some shorter introductory works. You can watch Parenti’s famous yellow lecture for a short introduction, and you can watch Richard Wollf’s introduction to Marxian Economics on YouTube. You can read The Jakarta Method, Blacks and Reds, or listen to a few podcasts like Blowback to learn about the propaganda machine at specific times (e.g., Iraq, Cuban Revolution, Korean War, Afghanistan in order of seasons of Blowback).

      But you’re going to have to stop trying to win internet arguments by being a smarmy ass and put in the effort if you really want to learn how a better world is possible.

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        Pre-K isn’t necessary.

        College should not be free. Trade schools should be free. If college were free, we would have to limit it to the best, which means the poor would be excluded. It needs to be affordable. Right now, it is not affordable for most people. It doesn’t make sense for a garbage man to for someone else’s gender studies degree.

        Crime dropped because it wasn’t being reported. It wasn’t because there wasn’t a crime. There just wasn’t anyone to arrest them. As you can see, with out current crime rates, it is not a sustainable model. If they are not arrested, then they repeat their crimes. If you look at San Francisco, businesses are leaving because of the crime, which hurts the city and community. It’s why poor areas don’t have grocery stores. The theft causes the business to leave. If you want to solve the food desert problem, you have to solve the crime problem.

        https://www.police1.com/patrol-issues/articles/study-major-crime-complaints-fell-when-ny-police-took-a-break-from-proactive-policing-iIKjnJjkPaFQGcXY/

        I have talked to people who lived during communism and I have visited a communist country. It isn’t a life style i would embrace. I like having a decent home, food in my stomach and being able to make my own decisions. I have never seen such poverty in my life until I went to Cuba and talk to my Polish friends, growing up starving wasn’t the life I would want. There is a reason millions fled communism. It just doesn’t work.

        I have learned how to make the world better. Be accountable to yourself, work hard, and respect others. I have done very well doing those things. I don’t want ‘free’ things from the government. I want the government to stay out of my life as much as possible and to live my life the way I want. I do support a single payer system as I think it enables more freedom but otherwise I don’t need a nanny state.

        • JamesConeZone [they/them]@hexbear.net
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          Pre-K isn’t necessary.

          “Fuck them kids” - You

          Consistent with other studies that find preschool has a huge effect on kids, Walters, Gray-Lobe and Pathak find that the kids lucky enough to get accepted into preschools in Boston saw meaningful changes to their lives. These kids were less likely to get suspended from school, less likely to skip class, and less likely to get in trouble and be placed in a juvenile detention facility. They were more likely to take the SATs and prepare for college. The most eye-popping effects the researchers find are on high school graduation and college enrollment rates. The kids who got accepted into preschool ended up having a high-school graduation rate of 70% — six percentage points higher than the kids who were denied preschool, who saw a graduation rate of only 64%. And 54% of the preschoolers ended up going to college after they graduated — eight percentage points higher than their counterparts who didn’t go to preschool. These effects were bigger for boys than for girls. And they’re all the more remarkable because the researchers only looked at the effects of a single year of preschool, as opposed to two years of preschool. Moreover, in many cases, the classes were only half a day.

          College should not be free

          Scratch a liberal and…

          It doesn’t make sense for a garbage man to for someone else’s gender studies degree

          There it is folks. Mask off in three replies.

          “I will read anything suggested.”

          Direct links to books, articles, videos, and a podcast

          “I have talked to people who lived during communism and I have visited a communist country.”

          Your only interest is yourself and your capital. You only want to protect yourself and, by doing so, you actively harm others. I hope your pile of gold is worth it.

          I only have one further question: have your children cut off communications with you or is that something you have to look forward to?