That’s because it’s not an app. Do “Winget list” and you’ll see it’s not there.
It’s part of the shell. Open it up, look at task manager, and you’ll see it’s not spawning new processes. Which also mean it’s irrelevant - it doesn’t add any background tasks, modifies any files or in anyway interfere with the users. It’s quite literally just an icon created by the shell.
Its more of the dependency chain. I wouldn’t consider tying your taskbar, web browser, and other microservices together like that a good thing in any ecosystem. Its not really the fact that removing system files breaks your system. Its that the taskbar and web browser should not be considered Core. People want to choose and not have their non-choice staring at them with their new gurl from the sidelines.
Do you use Android? Chrome is the native WebView that a good chunk of your apps use. Without deep modifications, you can’t use another webview.
Do you use iOS? Safari not only renders any HTML component on any app, it’s also the engine behind every single browser on the OS - Chrome on iOS is Safari with different clothing.
Do you use an Xbox? A PlayStation? I could go on.
While Linux does indeed handle this differently, with most apps bundling their own web rendering engine, Windows and many other systems use one main core browser that other apps call when they need web pages. This is got many advantages and many disavantages. If you dislike it, fair enough - but let’s not pretend this is unusual or somehow unjustifiable.
Do you use Android? Chrome is the native WebView that a good chunk of your apps use.
Wait… so you are talking about webviews when I was talking about the actual browser? Lmao… talk about a false equivalency.
This is got many advantages and many disavantages. If you dislike it, fair enough - but let’s not pretend this is unusual or somehow unjustifiable.
I’m talking about forcing the actual browser installation. Nothing you said has countered this, Android doesn’t force Chrome to be installed for webviews in applications. The webview class is nothing close to being a full browser, and certainly doesn’t require a browser to be installed to use it. If anything, that is an example of the right way to do it… having a separate class, that is not dependent on the actual browser installation.
Yes, please go on, I can’t wait to hear more of your ridiculous takes.
webview != browser… what is so hard to understand about this? The fact that an OS is reliant on a browser out of the box, is absolutely ridiculous. If all these app dependencies were on the Edge Webview base instead of pointed at the actual browser installation, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Yeah, I agree with the meme, Windows is absolute dogshit… it’s a joke. I didn’t realize it until switching to Linux and seeing how an OS should be built.
Most things are probably fine, though Windows updates might do something funky or just put it back from where you threw out that trash.
But Edge is a different story. Microsoft in their infinite wisdom decided to make Edge, their web browser, essential for Windows Explorer, their file manager and desktop among other things, to function properly.
So if you get rid of Edge, things can get kinda fucky. I haven’t looked into if someone has made a workaround, I know that there are modified “debloated” Windows installs that do some heavy duty mucking about in there, but I don’t know if anyone’s figure out how to give Edge the ax without making your desktop freak out.
The system does not break because the bloatware is missing, but because to remove Edge you removed the privileges of the system account used for system updates. The method described is what breaks Windows, not the removal of Edge. There are exploits allowing an administrator account to impersonate TrustedInstaller: it’s possible to uninstall edge without breaking Windows Update.
So his Meme is correct the system will break if you force it to uninstall something?
No for 95% of packages.
Yes for packages that are indeed part of the system.
“Oh no I deleted a system file and now features that rely on that file don’t work! How weird! Microsoft bad”
There’s a “Getting Started” app built in to win11 that is both completely useless and totally unremovable by any method without breaking the OS.
That’s because it’s not an app. Do “Winget list” and you’ll see it’s not there.
It’s part of the shell. Open it up, look at task manager, and you’ll see it’s not spawning new processes. Which also mean it’s irrelevant - it doesn’t add any background tasks, modifies any files or in anyway interfere with the users. It’s quite literally just an icon created by the shell.
Its more of the dependency chain. I wouldn’t consider tying your taskbar, web browser, and other microservices together like that a good thing in any ecosystem. Its not really the fact that removing system files breaks your system. Its that the taskbar and web browser should not be considered Core. People want to choose and not have their non-choice staring at them with their new gurl from the sidelines.
And the web browser being an integral part of the OS is a fucking joke to most of us.
Do you use Android? Chrome is the native WebView that a good chunk of your apps use. Without deep modifications, you can’t use another webview. Do you use iOS? Safari not only renders any HTML component on any app, it’s also the engine behind every single browser on the OS - Chrome on iOS is Safari with different clothing. Do you use an Xbox? A PlayStation? I could go on.
While Linux does indeed handle this differently, with most apps bundling their own web rendering engine, Windows and many other systems use one main core browser that other apps call when they need web pages. This is got many advantages and many disavantages. If you dislike it, fair enough - but let’s not pretend this is unusual or somehow unjustifiable.
Wait… so you are talking about webviews when I was talking about the actual browser? Lmao… talk about a false equivalency.
I’m talking about forcing the actual browser installation. Nothing you said has countered this, Android doesn’t force Chrome to be installed for webviews in applications. The webview class is nothing close to being a full browser, and certainly doesn’t require a browser to be installed to use it. If anything, that is an example of the right way to do it… having a separate class, that is not dependent on the actual browser installation.
Yes, please go on, I can’t wait to hear more of your ridiculous takes.
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You have got to be trolling.
You can easily remove Edge but need to install Edge WebView.
The person you are replying to is completely right and you’re wrong.
webview != browser… what is so hard to understand about this? The fact that an OS is reliant on a browser out of the box, is absolutely ridiculous. If all these app dependencies were on the Edge Webview base instead of pointed at the actual browser installation, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.
Scroll up. All the way you. See that picture? That’s you.
Yeah, I agree with the meme, Windows is absolute dogshit… it’s a joke. I didn’t realize it until switching to Linux and seeing how an OS should be built.
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Most things are probably fine, though Windows updates might do something funky or just put it back from where you threw out that trash.
But Edge is a different story. Microsoft in their infinite wisdom decided to make Edge, their web browser, essential for Windows Explorer, their file manager and desktop among other things, to function properly.
So if you get rid of Edge, things can get kinda fucky. I haven’t looked into if someone has made a workaround, I know that there are modified “debloated” Windows installs that do some heavy duty mucking about in there, but I don’t know if anyone’s figure out how to give Edge the ax without making your desktop freak out.
That was definitely by design. I’m surprised they haven’t done that with more of their other bloatware tbh.
You just need to install Edge WebView separately.
The system does not break because the bloatware is missing, but because to remove Edge you removed the privileges of the system account used for system updates. The method described is what breaks Windows, not the removal of Edge. There are exploits allowing an administrator account to impersonate TrustedInstaller: it’s possible to uninstall edge without breaking Windows Update.
Yes, though I’m pretty sure I’ve uninstalled or atleast disabled cortana with no problems
At some point this holds true for any and all environments.