When presented with the choice between the arsonist who wants to burn your house down slowly vs the arsonist who wants to burn your house down quickly, choose the arsonist who wants to burn your house down slowly, so you have more opportunities to escape or mitigate the damage.
Edit:
Why the downvotes? How is this analogy inconsistent with what was just described?
I mean… It might make the other arsonist think twice.
But it might also just make the arsonists shoot all the firefighters and then set the whole town on fire. Still might be worth a try, if someone was willing
I think my analogy is passing the bounds of its usefulness 😅
I dont disagree, if voting in amerikkka didnt involve doxing urself and i lived in a state where it made a difference and i had nothing better to do that day i would vote for the dems, but they are both arsonist and both want to burn ur house down, they are on the same side and only disagree in matters of detail.
The detail/degree matters.
Its crazy to prefer the speedy arsonist, or to leave the decision up to other arsonists, when you and your family are in the house
choose the arsonist who wants to burn your house down slowly, so you have more opportunities to escape or mitigate the damage.
Except the dems refuse to be pushed left and constantly move right so really you’re just gonna die a slower death. I’d rather go out waving my middle finger at both arsonists
But you’re waving while standing inside the burning house where they can’t see you. Your protest just makes it more likely that the speedy arsonist gets the chance, and does nothing to harm either of the arsonists.
Yes I agree, my finger waving is just for me, it’s to make me feel better while I die because I have no other option.
As I said in my last comment, the slow arsonist (dems) have repeatedly demonstrated and continue to demonstrate that they will never move left and will only move right so that means that even if they are the slower arsonists I still have no opportunity to “escape or mitigate the damage.” as you put it because the dems are working their hardest to block all of those opportunities and refuse to ever open those opportunities to the country.
But voting liberal (eg Dems in the USA) gives us more time to find a solution. It’s not the solution, it’s just a stalling tactic. Even when they’re trying to block opportunities, it still results in relatively more opportunities than otherwise. I think there is value in that.
There are times when spoiling a ballot or even voting the other way is good, it sends a message which may (unlikely) cause a shakeup. But to simply never participate just accelerates the destruction.
i could copy my entire last response to u here again and it would be equally valid, because u have said literally nothing that u didnt already say and that i didnt already respond to, to safe myself the annoyance how about u just read it again untill u get it.
Yes both parties are bad, but voting for one is voting for more opportunities to save yourself.
The decision to prioritize giving them the middle finger where nobody can see it over helping yourself is something I can’t get my head around. Your resistance does nothing but help the speedy arsonist.
It feels like you’re just listing off talking points to score cool points with a bunch of Lemmy edgelords.
dude did u even fucking read my comment can u even read, should i even be writing this, i literally said that i dont disagree that the dems are marginally better and that if it made a difference i would vote for them. BUT that doesnt change the fuck that they are both on the same fucking side they both serve capital they both love genocide they both want to murder brown people neither gives a shit about u. 2 fucking things can be true at once and hopefully u arent too fucking brain dead yet to understand that. like holy fuck dude u said the exact same meaningless dribble 3 fucking comments in a row.
maybe u should stop fucking campaigning for genocide joes sidekick, and start spending ur time doing something that would actually make a difference, maybe (to use ur shit analogy) u should start organizing an anti arsonist watch, instead of going around trying to convince people to vote for the less bad arsonist, like vote for the dems if it matters in ur state but fuck ur time cant possibly be worth so little that u would spend it trying to convince people to vote the dems.
Your lack of self awareness is absolutely astounding because not only did everything you say apply to you, but in fact you somehow missed that I already did it.
You complain about how you could just write the same response again because I “didn’t understand it” in a post where I literally had to rephrase my same point again because you didn’t understand it
You say “2 fucking things can be true at once” as though voting to slow the disaster prevents you from doing any of the other things you said I should be doing.
Fuckin learn the concept of critical support you absolute waste of space. You sit on your high horse like some fucking internet edgelord pretending because YOU didn’t vote for the bad person, that nothing the bad person did was your fault.
Never mind reading what I wrote, read what you wrote as though as though someone else sent it to you. 🤯
to “both sides” something there first have to be 2 different sides, not two right wings of the fucking bird in nazi insignias.
When presented with the choice between the arsonist who wants to burn your house down slowly vs the arsonist who wants to burn your house down quickly, choose the arsonist who wants to burn your house down slowly, so you have more opportunities to escape or mitigate the damage.
Edit:
Why the downvotes? How is this analogy inconsistent with what was just described?
what if we shoot the arsonists 🤔
I mean… It might make the other arsonist think twice.
But it might also just make the arsonists shoot all the firefighters and then set the whole town on fire. Still might be worth a try, if someone was willing
I think my analogy is passing the bounds of its usefulness 😅
I dont disagree, if voting in amerikkka didnt involve doxing urself and i lived in a state where it made a difference and i had nothing better to do that day i would vote for the dems, but they are both arsonist and both want to burn ur house down, they are on the same side and only disagree in matters of detail.
The detail/degree matters.
Its crazy to prefer the speedy arsonist, or to leave the decision up to other arsonists, when you and your family are in the house
Except the dems refuse to be pushed left and constantly move right so really you’re just gonna die a slower death. I’d rather go out waving my middle finger at both arsonists
But you’re waving while standing inside the burning house where they can’t see you. Your protest just makes it more likely that the speedy arsonist gets the chance, and does nothing to harm either of the arsonists.
Yes I agree, my finger waving is just for me, it’s to make me feel better while I die because I have no other option.
As I said in my last comment, the slow arsonist (dems) have repeatedly demonstrated and continue to demonstrate that they will never move left and will only move right so that means that even if they are the slower arsonists I still have no opportunity to “escape or mitigate the damage.” as you put it because the dems are working their hardest to block all of those opportunities and refuse to ever open those opportunities to the country.
We’re all fucked
Oh I totally agree.
But voting liberal (eg Dems in the USA) gives us more time to find a solution. It’s not the solution, it’s just a stalling tactic. Even when they’re trying to block opportunities, it still results in relatively more opportunities than otherwise. I think there is value in that.
There are times when spoiling a ballot or even voting the other way is good, it sends a message which may (unlikely) cause a shakeup. But to simply never participate just accelerates the destruction.
i could copy my entire last response to u here again and it would be equally valid, because u have said literally nothing that u didnt already say and that i didnt already respond to, to safe myself the annoyance how about u just read it again untill u get it.
Your priorities just make no sense to me.
Yes both parties are bad, but voting for one is voting for more opportunities to save yourself.
The decision to prioritize giving them the middle finger where nobody can see it over helping yourself is something I can’t get my head around. Your resistance does nothing but help the speedy arsonist.
It feels like you’re just listing off talking points to score cool points with a bunch of Lemmy edgelords.
dude did u even fucking read my comment can u even read, should i even be writing this, i literally said that i dont disagree that the dems are marginally better and that if it made a difference i would vote for them. BUT that doesnt change the fuck that they are both on the same fucking side they both serve capital they both love genocide they both want to murder brown people neither gives a shit about u. 2 fucking things can be true at once and hopefully u arent too fucking brain dead yet to understand that. like holy fuck dude u said the exact same meaningless dribble 3 fucking comments in a row.
maybe u should stop fucking campaigning for genocide joes sidekick, and start spending ur time doing something that would actually make a difference, maybe (to use ur shit analogy) u should start organizing an anti arsonist watch, instead of going around trying to convince people to vote for the less bad arsonist, like vote for the dems if it matters in ur state but fuck ur time cant possibly be worth so little that u would spend it trying to convince people to vote the dems.
Your lack of self awareness is absolutely astounding because not only did everything you say apply to you, but in fact you somehow missed that I already did it.
You complain about how you could just write the same response again because I “didn’t understand it” in a post where I literally had to rephrase my same point again because you didn’t understand it
You say “2 fucking things can be true at once” as though voting to slow the disaster prevents you from doing any of the other things you said I should be doing.
Fuckin learn the concept of critical support you absolute waste of space. You sit on your high horse like some fucking internet edgelord pretending because YOU didn’t vote for the bad person, that nothing the bad person did was your fault.
Never mind reading what I wrote, read what you wrote as though as though someone else sent it to you. 🤯
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