• KⒶMⒶLⒶ@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    If you can deny that an animal’s experience has any value, you can do the same to a human.

    values are subjective

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      2 months ago

      Okay? So?

      Being cruel and violent to innocent creatures requires that you learn to suspend your empathy. Being cruel and violent to innocent creatures EVERY SINGLE DAY requires that you main your empathy, to actually injure yourself and impair your ability to be empathetic AT ALL.

      To respond to your apparent non sequitur, I value compassion and empathy. Don’t you?

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      2 months ago

      And yours are inconsistent. Is there a problem with people pointing that out?

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          2 months ago

          I didn’t say they had the same value. I said they had value. Consuming them for hedonistic pleasure is only ethically consistent with the view that animals have effectively zero or even negative intrinsic value.

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                  2 months ago

                  Well your body is just a tool your mind uses to complete tasks right? You can be objective about the tools you use can’t you? You could even similarly protect your tools like your mind protects your body if you felt it necessary.

                  How do you decide what you can be objective about and what you can’t?